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Postby CanesSkins26 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:16 pm

frankcal20 wrote:thanks Mr. Negative.

I'm happy with this pick because he's more athletic than Okung and has a higher upside. Okung is very good in his own right but there is a limit to what he can do.


Sorry, Okung has more upside. He is also MUCH stronger, as Williams only managed 23 reps at the combine. Okung also doesnt have work ethic concerns. Williams is a fine player, but Okung is the better player and would be ready to start Day 1, Trent Williams wont.
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Postby Countertrey » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:20 pm

Actually, consensus is that Williams has more upside. Okung is more ready for the NFL, but the feeling is that Williams has greater potential.
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Postby Cappster » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:21 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:thanks Mr. Negative.

I'm happy with this pick because he's more athletic than Okung and has a higher upside. Okung is very good in his own right but there is a limit to what he can do.


Sorry, Okung has more upside. He is also MUCH stronger, as Williams only managed 23 reps at the combine. Okung also doesnt have work ethic concerns. Williams is a fine player, but Okung is the better player and would be ready to start Day 1, Trent Williams wont.


As evident by the way Shanny runs his ship, I don't think William's work ethic is going to be much of an issue. I have o believe that the man who churns out offensive linemen and running backs can make the most out of a top prospect in this year's draft.
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Postby Cappster » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:22 pm

Countertrey wrote:Actually, consensus is that Williams has more upside. Okung is more ready for the NFL, but the feeling is that Williams has greater potential.


Yes, and Williams can get stronger. A player cannot get more athletic.
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Postby CanesSkins26 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:22 pm

Countertrey wrote:Actually, consensus is that Williams has more upside. Okung is more ready for the NFL, but the feeling is that Williams has greater potential.


That's not what Kiper and Gruden just said.
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Postby frankcal20 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:22 pm

Hey - that's ok. I'll take leverage and speed over power and I think that's better suited for this offense. I'm taking a wait and see approach but I'm very happy that we addressed an area of need.

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Postby brad7686 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:24 pm

I don't know how these people pick up steam out of nowhere, when they are TERRIBLE on tape. He ran a 4.8, congratulations. He jumped really high. What percentage of the time is a lineman Jumping or running in a straight line?
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Postby Cappster » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:33 pm

brad7686 wrote:I don't know how these people pick up steam out of nowhere, when they are TERRIBLE on tape. He ran a 4.8, congratulations. He jumped really high. What percentage of the time is a lineman Jumping or running in a straight line?


He must not have looked that bad if Shanny feels he can work with him. Linemen are not sexy either way. Everyone thought Gallery was going to be a stud a few years back and he didn't turn out that well. I will give Williams the benefit of the doubt.
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Postby Hooligan » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:01 pm

brad7686 wrote:I don't know how these people pick up steam out of nowhere, when they are TERRIBLE on tape. He ran a 4.8, congratulations. He jumped really high. What percentage of the time is a lineman Jumping or running in a straight line?


To be fair, a good vertical jump and 40 time would indicate a pretty quick and explosive player.
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Postby langleyparkjoe » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:40 pm

who cares?????? Stop fussin about who is better..He's a Skin now (not okung) and that's all that matters. Welcome home young buck..put out the gum next time you do an interview do'h..lol.. Dam the season openr is soooo far away
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Postby Manchester_Redskin » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:02 am

My question is a simple one ....will he be our starting LT?

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Postby 1niksder » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:02 am

CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:thanks Mr. Negative.

I'm happy with this pick because he's more athletic than Okung and has a higher upside. Okung is very good in his own right but there is a limit to what he can do.


Sorry, Okung has more upside. He is also MUCH stronger, as Williams only managed 23 reps at the combine. Okung also doesnt have work ethic concerns. Williams is a fine player, but Okung is the better player and would be ready to start Day 1, Trent Williams wont.

Trent Williams will beat out Heyer for the spot and WILL be the Redskins starting RT on day 1
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Postby Cappster » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:01 am

1niksder wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:thanks Mr. Negative.

I'm happy with this pick because he's more athletic than Okung and has a higher upside. Okung is very good in his own right but there is a limit to what he can do.


Sorry, Okung has more upside. He is also MUCH stronger, as Williams only managed 23 reps at the combine. Okung also doesnt have work ethic concerns. Williams is a fine player, but Okung is the better player and would be ready to start Day 1, Trent Williams wont.

Trent Williams will beat out Heyer for the spot and WILL be the Redskins starting RT on day 1


Asked if Berry was a consideration, Shanahan replied: “We had a bunch of different directions we could go. Obviously I thought the left tackle position was a need for us. I wasn’t sure Trent was going to be there. If Trent wasn’t there, would we entertain different positions? Sure. That’s a constant when you are dealing with the draft.


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Postby Skinsfan55 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:10 am

Yeah, there is absolutely no doubt that Trent Williams is the starting LT... I think Heyer will play RT next year barring a trade or FA.
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Postby VetSkinsFan » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:49 am

1niksder wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:thanks Mr. Negative.

I'm happy with this pick because he's more athletic than Okung and has a higher upside. Okung is very good in his own right but there is a limit to what he can do.


Sorry, Okung has more upside. He is also MUCH stronger, as Williams only managed 23 reps at the combine. Okung also doesnt have work ethic concerns. Williams is a fine player, but Okung is the better player and would be ready to start Day 1, Trent Williams wont.

Trent Williams will beat out Heyer for the spot and WILL be the Redskins starting RT on day 1

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