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Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby riggofan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:47 am

Woah. Well here it comes.

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As speculation mounts about Mike Shanahan's future in Washington, details have emerged about the coach's dissatisfaction with the relationship between owner Dan Snyder and quarterback Robert Griffin III.

Disillusioned with the way Snyder was running the organization, Shanahan cleaned out his office in advance of January's wild-card playoff game against the Seattle Seahawks and expected to leave the team whenever the season ended, according to a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

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Jonathan Newton/Getty ImagesMike Shanahan grew disillusioned at the special treatment Robert Griffin III received from owner Dan Snyder and had planned to resign after last season before the quarterback hurt his knee in the playoffs, a source said.

The source said Shanahan had grown tired of the way Snyder empowered Griffin and openly esteemed him above all other players. Shanahan didn't blame Griffin but did blame Snyder for creating an atmosphere that Shanahan did not believe was conducive to winning. Shanahan privately told people close to him that he felt Snyder's behavior with regard to Griffin was a "complete farce."

In spite of that, Shanahan believed he would be leaving the team on a very positive note, as the Redskins had won the NFC East in his third year as their coach and were preparing for a playoff run. He believed the team had come together and shown strong character during the seven-game winning streak on which it ended the regular season.

But when Griffin injured his knee in that playoff loss, a source said, Shanahan changed his plans. He believed leaving at that point was no longer an option. He didn't want the general public, or possibly even his players, to think he left because of Griffin's injury.

Contacted this weekend about this information, Shanahan declined to comment.

Through team spokesman Tony Wyllie, the Redskins said, "That story is ridiculous."

A team source said Shanahan had grown weary by January of the way Snyder treated Griffin, empowering his quarterback and helping make him feel bigger than the team. The issue apparently carried over into the offseason and into this season.

Snyder regularly sent his security team to accompany Griffin when he went out in Washington. Snyder's personal driver was spotted picking up Griffin's then-fiancee (now wife) at road games.

But it wasn't just Snyder's relationship with Griffin that irked Shanahan. It was also the way in which he dealt with employees who had less star power than his star quarterback, sources said. After Kirk Cousins relieved an injured Griffin last December in Cleveland and led Washington to a 38-21 victory over the Browns, players and coaches spotted Snyder standing at the quarterbacks' lockers, talking only to Griffin while, one source said, Snyder "didn't acknowledge" Cousins.

The strain in the Shanahan-Snyder relationship is one of several negative backdrops to a season gone wrong in Washington, and the question now is what happens with Shanahan at season's end.

Those who know him believe that, if he was willing to walk away last season, he might be willing to do the same this offseason. Snyder also could decide to fire him.

Either way, it appears a breakup is inevitable. Shanahan has one year left on his contract, and the Redskins are struggling through a disappointing season at 3-9. As a result of the 2012 trade that allowed the Redskins to draft Griffin, the team doesn't even have a first-round draft pick in 2014. The Rams hold that pick, which, if the season ended Sunday, would be the No. 2 pick overall.

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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby Sonny9TD » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:57 am

That is most interesting.

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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby Burgundy&Wha? » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:58 am

If Dan Snyder were on fire, I wouldn't piss it out. We're doomed with him owning the team. He just doesn't get it. He likely never will.

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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby spudstr04 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:06 am

I actually think this smells like Shanahan planning an out. He knows he's going to be fired and now this is leaked, he can blame the owner to get a new HC job next season. I'm reading many Redskins writers and bloggers and they are saying that RG3 and Snyder didn't talk and hang out during the season. May be a few charity events, but Shanahan was afforded the same benefits that RG3 was. Shanny's ego is hurt and he's planning his exit route.
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Postby PulpExposure » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:12 am

spudstr04 wrote:I actually think this smells like Shanahan planning an out. He knows he's going to be fired and now this is leaked, he can blame the owner to get a new HC job next season. I'm reading many Redskins writers and bloggers and they are saying that RG3 and Snyder didn't talk and hang out during the season. May be a few charity events, but Shanahan was afforded the same benefits that RG3 was. Shanny's ego is hurt and he's planning his exit route.


I agree. I think it's extremely fishy that the first time we heard about a Snyder-RG3 link was from the national sports media, and not from local media.

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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby Irn-Bru » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:52 am

Yeesh.
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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby Kilmer72 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:57 am

Regardless of how the dots connect as to the latest report out of Washington, here’s how the dots connect going forward. Snyder is going to fire Shanahan. We wouldn’t be surprised if it happens later today, if the Redskins lose to the Chiefs.

Really, what else is Snyder going to do? He’s been openly disrespected. If that was enough to prompt Joe Pesci to riddle Spider with bullets, it’s enough to get Snyder to fire Shanahan.


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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby hanburgerheel » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:28 pm

I wish he would have quit last January. We should be so lucky. If Snyder can bypass the buy-out then even better. I wish the turd had never floated back to the top when he "retired" before.

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Postby Irn-Bru » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:35 pm

hanburgerheel wrote:I wish he would have quit last January. We should be so lucky. If Snyder can bypass the buy-out then even better. I wish the turd had never floated back to the top when he "retired" before.


Right, cause Shanahan is the problem, not Snyder. :roll:
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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby hanburgerheel » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:40 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
hanburgerheel wrote:I wish he would have quit last January. We should be so lucky. If Snyder can bypass the buy-out then even better. I wish the turd had never floated back to the top when he "retired" before.


Right, cause Shanahan is the problem, not Snyder. :roll:



Look, dude... Can you fire the owner? NO!

Mike Shanahan and his staff have shown me nothing except a win streak a year ago and then a series of bad decisions that almost sidelined RG3 permanently. I am fully aware that Snyder is not well-liked in DC and among the fan base. But, we are stuck with Dan Snyder. S-T-U-C-K with him. Mike Shanahan's record in DC is terrible. The scenery and details behind that don't matter to me. Get a coach and a system that can win. That's all I want. Period.

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Postby riggofan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:41 pm

spudstr04 wrote:I actually think this smells like Shanahan planning an out. He knows he's going to be fired and now this is leaked, he can blame the owner to get a new HC job next season.


I don't think there is any question. When leaks like this start to happen, this is somebody positioning themselves. Possibly also Shanahan trying to force Snyder's hand into firing him.

I don't think the truth of the story is really as important as the fact that this story is coming out now at all. Its also not some random blogger speculating. This is coming through ESPN. This makes me think its a lot more likely that Mike is gone.

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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby riggofan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:44 pm

hanburgerheel wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
hanburgerheel wrote:I wish he would have quit last January. We should be so lucky. If Snyder can bypass the buy-out then even better. I wish the turd had never floated back to the top when he "retired" before.


Right, cause Shanahan is the problem, not Snyder. :roll:



Look, dude... Can you fire the owner? NO!

Mike Shanahan and his staff have shown me nothing except a win streak a year ago and then a series of bad decisions that almost sidelined RG3 permanently. I am fully aware that Snyder is not well-liked in DC and among the fan base. But, we are stuck with Dan Snyder. S-T-U-C-K with him. Mike Shanahan's record in DC is terrible. The scenery and details behind that don't matter to me. Get a coach and a system that can win. That's all I want. Period.


Look, dude... I get your point. But what makes you think Snyder is EVER going to "get a coach and a system that can win"? The guy has gone through something like 7 coaches in 15 years? Perpetually hiring and firing coaches clearly isn't the solution.

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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby Irn-Bru » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:48 pm

hanburgerheel wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
hanburgerheel wrote:I wish he would have quit last January. We should be so lucky. If Snyder can bypass the buy-out then even better. I wish the turd had never floated back to the top when he "retired" before.


Right, cause Shanahan is the problem, not Snyder. :roll:



Look, dude... Can you fire the owner? NO!


If the owner is the problem, bringing on a different coach won't change things. Vince Lombardi couldn't win here with the way Snyder is acting. (Neither could a coach just as great: Joe Gibbs.)

Mike Shanahan and his staff have shown me nothing except a win streak a year ago and then a series of bad decisions that almost sidelined RG3 permanently. I am fully aware that Snyder is not well-liked in DC and among the fan base. But, we are stuck with Dan Snyder. S-T-U-C-K with him. Mike Shanahan's record in DC is terrible. The scenery and details behind that don't matter to me. Get a coach and a system that can win. That's all I want. Period.

Yeah, another turn 'round the revolving door oughta do it.

You'll never get there with a bad owner. Period.
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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby hanburgerheel » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:59 pm

All of you people crying about the owner being the problem need to just go ahead and stop watching the team, posting on here, and anything else to do with the Redskins. The owner is here to stay. The coach is an option. Period.

How many coaches does he have to go through? I have no idea. I see that this choice he made in 2010 is crap. So, I guess it will take at least one more choice. This is simple. If you're that upset about the owner, then go and pull for another team because he's not going anywhere for a few more decades at least.

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Re: Owner-QB link disillusioned coach

Postby riggofan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:00 pm

hanburgerheel wrote:All of you people crying about the owner being the problem need to just go ahead and stop watching the team, posting on here, and anything else to do with the Redskins. The owner is here to stay. The coach is an option. Period.

How many coaches does he have to go through? I have no idea. I see that this choice he made in 2010 is crap. So, I guess it will take at least one more choice. This is simple. If you're that upset about the owner, then go and pull for another team because he's not going anywhere for a few more decades at least.


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