A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby Kilmer72 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:33 pm

SkinsJock wrote:boy there's a lot of "according to this guy or that guy.... " going on around here :lol:

most of us know that most of those "according to .. " reports we've seen lately are only based on past history here and are a real stretch of the actual truth

almost anything and everything illogical "fits" the profile that is the Redskins under Dan Snyder so why not create it/report it and not give the true source

the only thing you can believe is that Dan Snyder does not have a clue and he will constantly be involved to the detriment of the play on the field

Dan Snyder did support Mike and the FO's decision to make the trade, no doubt - because it was the best deal for the Redskins, not because it was a 'good marketing idea'



I agree SkinsJock. Unfortunately if enough people tell you you have a zit on your forehead you might want to check.

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:22 pm

no need if you know the source is as anti Redskins as our DC media
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby UK Skins Fan » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:45 pm

SkinsJock wrote:no need if you know the source is as anti Redskins as our DC media

Right now, the DC media is no more "anti Redskins" than the team's own fanbase!
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:46 pm

That's another fact ... :twisted:
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby Smithian » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:55 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mi ... ml?hpid=z2

Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the postgame lockerroom.
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:21 pm

another constructive, knee jerk reaction :lol:

plain and simple - why? what difference does it make?
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby Smithian » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:51 pm

SkinsJock wrote:another constructive, knee jerk reaction :lol:

plain and simple - why? what difference does it make?
Surely you jest.

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:17 pm

Smithian wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mike-shanahan-hasnt-solved-washington-redskins-problems-during-uneven-tenure/2013/12/28/7df92930-6fd5-11e3-a523-fe73f0ff6b8d_story.html?hpid=z2

Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the postgame lockerroom.


Not even Dan Snyder who is an idiot would stoop that low - that is a classless thing to do and will not happen

we shall see who has a better understanding of these things :D
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby Smithian » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:52 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
Smithian wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mike-shanahan-hasnt-solved-washington-redskins-problems-during-uneven-tenure/2013/12/28/7df92930-6fd5-11e3-a523-fe73f0ff6b8d_story.html?hpid=z2

Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the postgame lockerroom.


Not even Dan Snyder who is an idiot would stoop that low - that is a classless thing to do and will not happen

we shall see who has a better understanding of these things :D
If I was a betting man I would put big money on Shanahan being gone tomorrow.
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:18 pm

Smithian wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:
Smithian wrote:Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the post game locker room.


Not even Dan Snyder would stoop that low - that is a classless thing to do and will not happen

we shall see who has a better understanding of these things :D
If I was a betting man I would put big money on Shanahan being gone tomorrow.


Oh No! - you already insisted he should be fired before then ... WRONG! you can't have it both ways

Mike is most likely fired soon ... but not today! :D
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:21 pm

I'm kind of glad that we might be done with Mike ...

my only concern is who will be responsible for bringing in the next HC ...

IF Mike is gone we need a real GM ...
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby EA7649 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:52 am

SkinsJock wrote:I'm kind of glad that we might be done with Mike ...

my only concern is who will be responsible for bringing in the next HC ...

IF Mike is gone we need a real GM ...


Is Bruce Allen reported to be on the out as well?

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby Neo » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:14 am

SkinsJock wrote:I'm kind of glad that we might be done with Mike ...

my only concern is who will be responsible for bringing in the next HC ...

IF Mike is gone we need a real GM ...


Brian Mitchel was talking about that on the Post Game Live. Hopefully Snyder watches it and takes note.

Like many of us have been saying, Mitchel thinks Bruce Allen should be VP of football operations (handling the financial matters). Then a football-minded GM who knows how to find talent in players and coaches to condition those players.

Literally praying it goes this way. [-o<
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby StorminMormon86 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:24 am

I don't think Allen is in the hot seat at all. We need a real GM.

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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded

Postby SkinsJock » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:25 am

EA7649 wrote:Is Bruce Allen reported to be out as well?

No - Bruce should be kept because he's done well for the franchise with the financial side ...

Mike & Bruce were not great as personnel guys - they did put together a good FO including a much improved scouting dept.

However, we don't have a strong GM who would be better at leading a search for a new HC plus other personnel (coaches and players)

Mike has 'controlled' things here - he has helped in many ways but certainly not as far as success on the field is concerned ...

IMO - letting Mike go is good thing - hopefully the restructuring is handled by NFL guys and not by Dan Snyder
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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