DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby Chris Luva Luva » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:29 pm

- His addition provides less of a drop off, if any during rotations.

- His addition allows us to generate more pressure up the middle, we sucked at that last year. Having him and Cofield in the middle during nickel packages will be huge!

- This will drive up the sacks for Orakpo and Kerrigan. How many times could a QB simply step up and evade their rush?

- This will open up safety blitzes.
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby Burgundy&Wha? » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:21 pm

With Hatcher beside/in front of him, Orakpo should simply sign his franchise tender and play the year. He should tally some good sack totals with Hatcher disrupting things.

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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby 1niksder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:55 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:4 years 27.5 million is the official contract amount, but do we know what our real commitment is to him? Is this a deal we can get out of next year or after year two without major cap implications? Hatcher will be 32 at the start of next season and is coming off of a career year.



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About a $3.75M cap hit in 2014...
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby DarthMonk » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:05 pm

1niksder wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:4 years 27.5 million is the official contract amount, but do we know what our real commitment is to him? Is this a deal we can get out of next year or after year two without major cap implications? Hatcher will be 32 at the start of next season and is coming off of a career year.



Jason Hatcher four-years, $27.5 million, ($10.5 million guaranteed, $9 million bonus,) $1.5 million 2014 salary full guarantee

About a $3.75M cap hit in 2014...


So if I'm reading this right ... if, for some reason, we let him go after a year, the subsequent cap hit would be $6.75M, and, if after 2 years, the subsequent cap hit would be $4.5M?
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby 1niksder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:12 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
1niksder wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:4 years 27.5 million is the official contract amount, but do we know what our real commitment is to him? Is this a deal we can get out of next year or after year two without major cap implications? Hatcher will be 32 at the start of next season and is coming off of a career year.



Jason Hatcher four-years, $27.5 million, ($10.5 million guaranteed, $9 million bonus,) $1.5 million 2014 salary full guarantee

About a $3.75M cap hit in 2014...


So if I'm reading this right ... if, for some reason, we let him go after a year, the subsequent cap hit would be $6.75M, and, if after 2 years, the subsequent cap hit would be $4.5M?


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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby DarthMonk » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:15 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:- His addition provides less of a drop off, if any during rotations.


This is huge. I'd like 2 more guys like Hatcher and/or Cofield. Hoping Baker and Jenkins can step up.
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby oneman56 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:23 pm

From ESPN, here's the 4 year breakdown.

Here's the breakdown, courtesy of ESPN Stats & Information:

2014
Base salary: $1.5 million (fully guaranteed)
Cap hit: $3.75 million

2015
Base salary: $3 million
Cap hit: $5.25 million

2016
Base salary: $6.5 million
Cap hit: $8.75 million

2017
Base salary: $7.5 million
Cap hit: $9.75 million

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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby fredp45 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:53 pm

Anyone have any idea who the three starters will be?

Coefield NT
Baker DE
Hatcher DE

How about Jenkins? Does Bowen stay on the roster?

Who are our final 6 DL?

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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby SkinsJock » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:56 pm

fredp45 wrote:Anyone have any idea who the three starters will be?

Coefield NT
Baker DE
Hatcher DE

How about Jenkins? Does Bowen stay on the roster? Who are our final 6 DL?


we really don't know who will be here yet .... it's only March .... :lol:
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby chiefhog44 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:12 pm

Considering how cap friendly this deal was and how it addressed a specific need, and how we took a good player from Dallas, and how highly ranked he was as a free agent, this deal was awesome in my opinion. He was the highest ranked DT in Bill Polians rank.

We're not getting flashy players, we're staying patient and signing players to solid and smart deals. Let's hope it translates to wins.

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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:53 am

Upgrade our team... and leave a whole on the pukes team???
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby Hooligan » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:48 pm

fredp45 wrote:Anyone have any idea who the three starters will be?

Coefield NT
Baker DE
Hatcher DE

How about Jenkins? Does Bowen stay on the roster?

Who are our final 6 DL?


Baker (333 lbs) is listed on the roster as a Nose Tackle, so he'd probably rotate with Cofield. My personal best guess at End would be Hatcher, Bowen, Jenkins, and a battle between whoever is left. Who else showed promise last season? Will Chris Neild fit in somewhere?
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:53 pm

Considering this is a pretty big signing, at least as big as adding Porter... anyone know why it isn't on the bottom line, or posted to the nfl app??
Peppers going to this arch rival is all the headlines bu t this isn't even worth a column?
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Re: DL Big signing

Postby SkinsJock » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:31 pm

Countertrey wrote:
EA7649 wrote:Signed Jason Hatcher, a pro bowl DL. 4 years 27.5m. ESPN draft tracker consider him an A-.


The D line just got MUCH better... A DE who can collapse the pocket is going to increase numbers for Orakpo and Kerrigan as well...


PLUS - adding a player that was one of the pukes best defensive players last season

I know that what he did means little because we're only interested in what he will do - it's still a 'good move'
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Re: DL Big signing (Jason Hatcher)

Postby Kilmer72 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:14 pm

All he needs to do is push the pocket back and let linebackers through. Correct me if I am wrong but, in a 34 you aren't expected very many sacks but yet Haz wants to put him in position to get the QB? If we are playing 43 as much as they said we did, doesn't that put our outside linebackers in a disadvantage because of coverage ability? Hell I don't know just questions running through my mind.

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