Redskin fans....i have a question for you.

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Postby skinsfaninroanoke » Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:55 am

Hey skinsfanno9 - do you remember the purge not just last year when we brought in all of those CHEAP Florida players but the year before when Marty purged the high priced nothings Snyder brought in? Seems to me I remember something about sportswriters talking about how we went from being one of the highest payroll teams to one of the lowest. Yet all these Wets fans can talk about is how much we paid out in 2001 and 2002 when it isn't true.

Another misquoted fact by the smack talking no fact Jet fan club :)
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Postby newshog » Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:08 pm

Are you redskin fans not worried about the decision's to bring in all these Free Agent's and Giving such hugh Bonus?

I'm certainly not worried--I think the FO has done a magnificent job of sorting through any cap implications and making all the contracts cap-friendly. I wish I had the figures, but I've read a couple of cap experts who agree that the team really can be together for the next three years (yes, with Champ and with LaVar).

So much money to player who just the year before were just above average..

But who is very ready to bust out into an All-Pro career. The Jets themselves tried to get him to re-sign at the last minute by offering a $10 million SB. Look at it this way--we offered an extra three million in signing bonus dollars to ensure the Jets wouldn't be able to get him. That's not a major cap hit spread over five years. And I've seen nothing to indicate that he isn't worth every penny--he's elevated the play of our other WRs, caught everything that has come near him, and been an exemplary team player. As long as we aren't in cap trouble--and we aren't--and have the players we want--and we do--I'm happy to pay whatever players and the FO can agree on.

Think on this, too--if we had opted to go for Rogers or Johnson in the first round of the draft (no doubt giving up picks to move up), we would have paid them a $14.4 million signing bonus ($54.6 million total contract/6 years) or $13.5 million SB ($39 million total contract/6 years) respectively, on top of those lost draft picks. And all that for potential. In LC, we know we got value--'cause we know the man can play. The Lions and Texans can only hope that their guys can play as well as LC--we don't have that worry.

Honestly, I'd rather pay the big bucks to a guy who we know can produce rather than one who happened to be drafted high but has never done a thing on an NFL field. That's why I'm all for fixed rookie contracts, but that's a whole different thread.

This is how Dan Snyder does buisness....

This is how every owner who can do it, does business. . . .

Now with champ turning down this GIANT offer

We sure don't know that yet--we're waiting for a counteroffer. It's the norm in negotiations like this.

,you have to be worried that the player are now demanding what they want...

Hardly--we gave him a fair opening offer, and now we're waiting for his camp. We certainly didn't blink when Daryl Gardener or Dan Wilkinson tried to stare us down. We'll negotiate in good faith with Champ just like we did with them. But if, in the end, he opts to go elsewhere after a fair offer, that's his right--it's what FA is all about.

Whats your cap situation like?Seriously.

Seriously? We currently have several million dollars of cap space (which we will probably use for Champ to sweeten his up-front money, assuming we sign him). And my understanding--though I am no cap expert--is that as long as we structure our big contracts right, we shouldn't have problems in the future either. That's the honest truth--I haven't heard of any issues! (And I am Newshog--my tentacles are in all media. :D )

Are you worried that you will losse either Arrington or Bailey....can you sign them both?

Nope, unless they just opt to go elsewhere after a fair offer from us. I'm actually more worried that we might be tempted to give them too much. And so far, our FO has shown every sign of maturing, so that's less of a worry than it would have been in, say, 2001. Yes, we can indeed sign them both if the contracts are structured right.
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Postby redskincity » Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:03 pm

Only thing fans need to worry about is getting good seats and tickets. Dont worry about Redskins we are alright. Fortune 500 ranked us number one. Dummies as far as being a better business man that is subjective. At 37 years of age Dan Snyder owns his own team. :D


I really think Jets fans make stupid commints to pick our brain on what went wrong with their ORG. :D


Win a couple more superbowl then come and Holla!!! :D
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Postby newshog » Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:44 pm

Oh, and as far as Dan Snyder's savvy as a businessman, I give you this from the Washington Times on Aug. 29:

The Washington Redskins' economic march into the record books continued yesterday as Forbes Magazine estimated the team's value at $952 million, 13 percent higher than a year ago and another all-time high for American sports.

The Redskins topped the closely watched Forbes list for the fourth consecutive year, easily outdistancing second place Dallas, worth an estimated $851 million.

British soccer power Manchester United briefly hit $1 billion total stock value five years ago but now stands nowhere near that mark.

The New York Yankees are the most valuable baseball team according to Forbes at $849 million.

Note that difference between the Redskins and the Yankees, my New York friends.
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Postby redskincity » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:10 pm

LOL LOL LOL LOl LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby learnnew » Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:56 pm

Mr. Smizzy,

Regarding overpaying Coles, Morton, Hall and Thomas, here is what Jets players have to say:

"I'm not mad at them at all, honestly. They did what they had to do," defensive tackle Jason Ferguson told reporters in New York yesterday. "But, man, the Redskins did a good job of getting all our key players."

"Heavens no," Edwards said in a conference call with Washington area reporters. "I don't hold grudges against people. The Redskins did nothing wrong. They went after good players. We happened to have four of them, and they got them. And that's good for them."

Now you determine how you rate your own team!

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Postby redskincity » Tue Sep 02, 2003 5:44 am

I hear crickets, chirping. :lol:
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Re: Jet Fans = Idiots

Postby JumbalayaJet » Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:27 pm

Crispus Attucks wrote:Jet fans thought he was the best in the NFL


Now I'm not gonna try to tell you he was average, but he only made the Pro Bowl after others bailed on the flight. There's no way he's the best in the NFL and noone except Snyder would ever be stupid enough to think so. Don't feel so bad about your beating thursday, hoggettes. We started out bad last year and our season turned out OK. Well, then again, you don't have a motivator like Herm, do ya?

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Postby Bob the Jets Fan » Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:42 pm

We have homers on our board, too.

But, you guys rival Dolphin fans in your delusions. I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here.

Fortunately for you, reality will have begun to set in two days from now. Washington is a bad team. Coles, etc. weren't worth the money.
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Postby redskincity » Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:48 pm

Speaking of Superbowls how many have the Jets won, Mr Sportwriter? :lol:


Its funny how the Jet fans are so concerned with our team!
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Postby redskinfan » Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:04 pm

but sir donkey isn't that what happens in pro football.the owner pays a whole lot of money to a bunch of football players

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Postby SirSmizzy » Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:46 pm

I started this thread as a serious question not a shot at the skins..your answered my question in your own delusional way..but you did answer them.
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Postby newshog » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:42 am

All right, SirSmizzy, let's hear your proof the contrary--show us how we're going to be in cap hell. Tell us how we made the wrong move by signing Morton. I certainly answered you as seriously as I could.
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