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Skinsfan55 +++++++++

Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 5261
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: H-Back in the "Gibbs Offense" |
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Now, I think I know what the H-Back position does, and how it's used...
But in the past, Gibbs has used an H-Back one year and a TE another year right?
Clint Didier was an H-back correct? Then later Don Warren was more of a true TE with excellent blocking ability?
Or am I missing something? Did Gibbs use an H-Back during the last time we won a Superbowl?
It seems like Gibbs will vary his offenses to his personnel, but what positions/roles did guys play on offense in both 1987 and 1991? |
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Warmother ~~~~~

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 1419 Location: Finksburg MD
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He had an H-back and a TE. In 87 and 91 Didier was the H-back. Terry Orr also played there. The TE was Warren. The base offense was 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 HB, 1 RB along with 5 OLmen and the QB. But when the Skin's went with 3 WR's, sometimes the HB came out sometimes it was the TE. On goaline offense the only WR on the field would be Monk, who would line up tight to block.
The offense was varried with a lot of players coming and going. Kelvin Bryant and Nick Giaquinto were pass catching backs that came in on 3rd down. Lots of people helped the high powered offense of the Skin's back then. |
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Skinsfan55 +++++++++

Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 5261
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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So in the Redskins new offense this year (primarily 3 WR from what I understand) how will that work?
Is Fauria a part time player? Will Cooley be lining up as a TE most of the time... will we run some double TE sets?
I can't wait to see how this works... what I wouldn't give to see a Redskins offensive playbook, lol. |
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TincoSkin Hog
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 1674 Location: I'm a Masshole
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| i bet we run double tight ends a lot when we are pounding the ball up the middle, a lot of moving the point of attack with the run along the line and play action passing utilzing the screen and te late routs of course with deep bombs to santana |
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welch Skins History Buff

Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 4671 Location: New York, NY
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WM said | Quote: | He had an H-back and a TE. In 87 and 91 Didier was the H-back. Terry Orr also played there. The TE was Warren. The base offense was 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 HB, 1 RB along with 5 OLmen and the QB. But when the Skin's went with 3 WR's, sometimes the HB came out sometimes it was the TE. On goaline offense the only WR on the field would be Monk, who would line up tight to block.
The offense was varried with a lot of players coming and going. Kelvin Bryant and Nick Giaquinto were pass catching backs that came in on 3rd down. Lots of people helped the high powered offense of the Skin's back then. |
Absolutely.
And when they went with the 3 WR's, called "posse" in Gibbs terminology, and thus the name for Monk + Sanders + Clark, he would put Monk at H-back. Since Monk was a powerful blocker, they could run almsot as effectively as when they had Didier, Doc Walker, or Orr on the field. Outguess that formation, Mr. Opposing Defensive Coordinator.
They also have a "heavy jumbo" goal-line package that they used in the '91 season with Russ Grimm or Mark Addickes as an eligble receiver.
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What will we see this season? I make no predictions until the first regular season game. |
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JansenFan and Jackson

Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 8909 Location: Charles Town, WV
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Jon Jansen was a receiving tight end in high school before attending Michigan.
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SkinsFanInHawai'i Hog
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 1624 Location: Ft. Lewis, WA
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Lets hope he doesn't brake his thumbs again  |
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JansenFan and Jackson

Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 8909 Location: Charles Town, WV
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| His hands are so big, he probably doesn't need them. |
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1niksder **********

Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 16591 Location: If I knew ... it would explain a lot but I've seen Homerville on a map, that wasn't helpful at all
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| JansenFan wrote: | | His hands are so big, he probably doesn't need them. |
I'd bet he'd play without them  |
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T-Nasty24 newbie
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| Will there be an H Back with Saunders? |
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Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 2049
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| Not likely. Cooley will see a lot more TE sets and looks. I don't imagine that they'll abandon the HBack spot entirely, but it won't be the norm. |
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JansenFan and Jackson

Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 8909 Location: Charles Town, WV
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| According to Cooley, he is running a lot of the same plays and some of the same motions, they just call him a Y instead of an H. |
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Fios The Evil Straw

Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 8219 Location: Leather Chair
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| Saunders track record with tight ends bodes well for Cooley ... and everyone else =) |
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SkinsJock 08 Champ

Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 11532 Location: New England
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I agree Fios, but I also think that Saunders is going to benefit the most from the quality of players he inherits. This is a group of players that seem to more than suit his type of playcalling and I am sure that everyone will be excited to be a part of an attacking offense.
I remember talking with some of the linemen from the earlier Gibbs' teams and Starke in particular used to love just playing the game because the coaches made them all look good. |
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