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Jimmy Smith

Postby DarthMonk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:02 pm

I'd love to land this guy:

http://proprospects.wordpress.com/2011/ ... ng-report/

He seems to rank around 40th or so on most boards. Perhaps we could trade our #10 and get 2 top-of-the-line starters instead of one bust. Mallett is dropping and I still like him too.

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Jimmy Smith: Measureables: Height: 6’2” | Weight: 203 lbs. | Positions: Cornerback

Instincts/Recognition: Understands route running and body language extremely well, especially when in man coverage. Does a good job of playing the ball and not the receiver. In off zone, struggles to sometimes recognize when receivers are breaking off their routes. Needs to improve his anticipation. Against the run, he does a nice job at keeping his eyes in the backfield to diagnosis the play. Also, reads screen passes very well.

Cover Skills: Press man coverage is where he shines. Plays with physicality and has the size and length to effectively press receivers and re-route them. Understands leverage and position. Knows how to use his wing span to jam a receivers inside shoulder, to prevent them from executing inside routes. Shows good balance when fighting receivers in the 5-yard area. Does a nice job of planting-and-closing on comeback routes, but could become even better if he stayed lower. Is adequate in off zone coverage. Footwork and balance tend to wane when not in press. Back pedals nicely, but could benefit from staying lower. Has good speed and foot quickness. Can stay in receivers hip pockets and that allows him to contest every ball thrown his way.

Ball Skills: Hands are good and improving. Does a nice job of playing the ball and not the receiver. On over the top routes, he whips his head around and locates the ball. Uses his long arms to deflect passes, and his hands to jar balls free. Has an innate ability to time his leaps and route jumping perfectly. Uses his size well on fade and post corner routes. Is not a ball hawking cornerback.

Run Support: Plays the run well, but needs to be more aggressive. Will sometimes wait for ball carriers to come to him or assume someone else will make the tackle, instead of attacking. Jogs around and lacks effort on occasion. Doesn’t fly to the ball, which allows ball carriers to get good yardage after first contact. Isn’t overly physical either. Does not show the strength necessary to deliver a good pop upon contact. Is more of a wrap-up-drag-down tackler. Despite his lack of physicality, he doesn’t miss many tackles. Even at his size, he has some issues with disengaging from receivers blocks. Needs to become more violent and aggressive with his hands.

Intangibles: Active in community service. Thought of as quiet and reserved. 2010 Jim Thorpe Award candidate. All-Big 12 First Team selection.

Overall Stock: Teams are intrigued by the size of Jimmy Smith. He has next level ability. Anytime a cornerback is 6ft plus, athletic, and excels at playing press man coverage, he will find himself in discussions of the first round. As it is now, not many people know about Smith. He is not a flashy kid. Doesn’t pick off a ton of passes and run them back for touchdowns, and he attended a mediocre football school. But, I guarantee people will soon know him. In the last two years, Smith has put up some crazy numbers that aren’t obvious to the casual fan. He has only allowed 11 competitions in the past two years, total. Those are insane numbers. In fact, those are Nnamdi-like numbers. Teams will put on the tape this offseason and see a potential shut down corner. He does have his flaws, but shut down corners are a rare breed, which means there’s a good chance Jimmy Smith comes off the board in the first round. With a strong combine, the skies the limit for this kid.

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Postby Countertrey » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:21 am

DM said:
Perhaps we could trade our #10 and get 2 top-of-the-line starters instead of one bust.


I'm not arguing that this would not be a desirable move... in fact, I'd love to see it... but, why do people talk about moves like this as though they could be found at Wal-Mart in the bargain aisle????

You have to have a partner to trade with... and finding partners for draft position swaps is just not that automatic. Most teams want to trade down... few want to trade up... unless they see that one "must have" player sitting at the higher spot. That just doesn't happen that often, any more. Too many recall the disasters that befell the NO Saints when they traded most of their draft for the Redskins pick that was only 2 places higher to get Ricky Williams, dooming the Saints to years of mediocrity (and, the Redskins STILL got the player they wanted, and continued to stink despite the incredible wealth of draft options that resulted)... or when the Vikes traded most of their picks to the Cowboys for Herschel Walker (while not a swap for picks, the result was similar for the Vikes, and made Dallas a contender for many years)...

You really must see your team as one or two players away in order to pay that price... OR see the quarterback whom you want for the future, OR, you must be the Patriots, who have a massive stock pile of draft picks that they can easily afford to spit away.

Finding teams willing to make swaps to move higher into the first round is just not that easy.

Invariably, after the draft, there are those who will berate the team for NOT making such a trade... when, the reality is, they probably tried for weeks to set up multiple such scenarios... it just couldn't be done. Finding a trading partner here requires a perfect alignment of the stars... and (sometimes) a clueless trading partner. Most trading partners, unfortunately, actually know what they are doing.
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Postby markshark84 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:51 pm

Countertrey wrote:DM said:
Perhaps we could trade our #10 and get 2 top-of-the-line starters instead of one bust.


I'm not arguing that this would not be a desirable move... in fact, I'd love to see it... but, why do people talk about moves like this as though they could be found at Wal-Mart in the bargain aisle????

You have to have a partner to trade with... and finding partners for draft position swaps is just not that automatic. Most teams want to trade down... few want to trade up... unless they see that one "must have" player sitting at the higher spot. That just doesn't happen that often, any more.


I totally agree with this. Too many people on this board tend to automatically believe that we can easily find a trade partner willing to give up their late first and/or second & second for our first. It just doesn't happen that often or easily. And when it does, -- many times -- it doesn't work out. I think we all can remember the 2008 Kelly and Davis trade? We traded our #21, third & fifth rounders to ATL -- who drafted OL Sam Baker. Now while Baker isn't an all-pro, he is a solid OT -- an OT that we could really use; instead we got a player we cut and a backup TE.

When we didn't fill our needs at OT in that draft and subsequently realized our need at OT, we traded a third and fourth rounder for Brown. So if you really look at it, we traded a first, 2 thirds, a fourth, and a fifth for two seconds and a fourth. And all we really needed to do was draft Baker and we could have kept a second, 2 thirds, a fourth and fifth picks -- AND STILL HAVE DRAFTED DAVIS (the only guy left on the roster).

Man was that a disaster.
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Postby brad7686 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:44 pm

he's shooting up draft boards also, will probly be a mid first rounder
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Postby DarthMonk » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:44 pm

Hence the word "perhaps."

PS - It's not all that far fetched that if Cam Newton or another "big name" is available at #10 someone would give us a 2 and a something else. The Browns turned a number 1 into 5 picks after a series of trade downs 2 years ago and pretty much built 3/5 of their line with young excellence.

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markshark84 wrote:
Countertrey wrote:DM said:
Perhaps we could trade our #10 and get 2 top-of-the-line starters instead of one bust.


I'm not arguing that this would not be a desirable move... in fact, I'd love to see it... but, why do people talk about moves like this as though they could be found at Wal-Mart in the bargain aisle????

You have to have a partner to trade with... and finding partners for draft position swaps is just not that automatic. Most teams want to trade down... few want to trade up... unless they see that one "must have" player sitting at the higher spot. That just doesn't happen that often, any more.


I totally agree with this. Too many people on this board tend to automatically believe that we can easily find a trade partner willing to give up their late first and/or second & second for our first. It just doesn't happen that often or easily. And when it does, -- many times -- it doesn't work out. I think we all can remember the 2008 Kelly and Davis trade? We traded our #21, third & fifth rounders to ATL -- who drafted OL Sam Baker. Now while Baker isn't an all-pro, he is a solid OT -- an OT that we could really use; instead we got a player we cut and a backup TE.

When we didn't fill our needs at OT in that draft and subsequently realized our need at OT, we traded a third and fourth rounder for Brown. So if you really look at it, we traded a first, 2 thirds, a fourth, and a fifth for two seconds and a fourth. And all we really needed to do was draft Baker and we could have kept a second, 2 thirds, a fourth and fifth picks -- AND STILL HAVE DRAFTED DAVIS (the only guy left on the roster).

Man was that a disaster.
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