Rock v. Trung

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Who would you like the Redskins to use at running back more often?

Trung Canidate
0
No votes
Ladell Betts
1
7%
Sultan McCullough
0
No votes
Chad Morton
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No votes
John Simon
1
7%
Rock Cartwright
12
86%
Bryan Johnson
0
No votes
 
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Rock v. Trung

Postby Justice Hog » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:21 pm

We're at the 2-minute warning now...and I had to take a second to post this.

I've been very impressed with Rock's power running today. He is getting a lot of yards after the 1st hit...and, frankly, I like him a lot more than Trung at this point.

I'd like to see him get the ball a lot more!
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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:45 pm

I'd be lying if I didn't mistake Rock for Trung on a few plays with his moves. Trung hasn't really shown me much in that category thus far. Leave Rock in, and train him to block better.

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Postby NikiH » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:52 pm

Didn't Steven Davis start out as a Full Back?? Where is the guy who was complaining we ditched Davis.
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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:14 pm

Maybe you are reffering to me, because I believe we should have kept him, IF it wasn't for the salary cap situation.

Davis is TONS better than ANY RB we have now.

He can run
He can run people over
He is not slow
O...and here's the shocker, HE CAN BLOCK.

So far, I'd have to say we should stick with Rock. He's hot right now, he has some shifty moves, and he's not super slow.

BUT he needs to work on BLOCKING. It sucks.

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Postby redskincity » Sun Nov 09, 2003 8:05 pm

I will vote on this pole in two weeks. Trung is proven and averaged over 5 a carry before the injury.


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Postby hailskins666 » Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:47 pm

i think trung made this start because of the injury situation, the team needed him. however he didn't make his usual cuts and moves, looked like he is still hurting, high ankle sprains can be brutal. but as far a the poll..... rock is running hard, if he has a little more time in the game, his blocks will get better. gotta go with him right now, he looks better and better as time goes on...
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Postby skinsfaninroanoke » Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:56 pm

He is shifty - but I saw him last year at camp and this year too - his legs are bigger than Trung's - he has some power. That 12 yard run when the LB had his ankles - what strength to break that and run so well. I loved it!
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Postby NC43Hog » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:14 am

Trung has the speed but tends to go down quickly - meaning it doesn't take a big hit to stop his momentum. Rock is more of a load and forces the defense to stop him with bigger hits or more tacklers. That's what I miss about S.Davis and Riggins. I like the balance of speed backs and load backs that can get you that 2-3 yards.
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Postby NikiH » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:52 am

Ok first of all Rock Cartwright was a rookie last year. You guys need to give this guy some credit. Was Stephen Davis rushing the way he does now when he was on his second year in the NFL? He didn't even fall into the Running Back position until he was in the league for like 5 years. We need to give CartWright some credit here. He could very possibly be of Davis' caliber in 4 years.
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Postby skinsfaninroanoke » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:13 pm

One thing I like besides Rock's speed and power is the low center of gravity that he has - he seems to have a great sense of balance - hard to take down.
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Postby redskincity » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:14 pm

We shall seeee. :wink:
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Postby skinsfaninroanoke » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:17 pm

Trying to be positive big guy :)
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Postby redskincity » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:20 pm

The power of positive thinking. :D :up: Although Rock is nice, dont get me wrong Rock has to earn his 2-3 yards where as Trung has the speed to skip to 5 yrds and use him as a GD receiver. IMO :up:
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Postby woohit56 » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:21 pm

I'm on the Rock bandwagon after yesterday. We already give him the ball in the red zone for the tough yardage so I say let him get the majority of the carries until he gives us a reason not to.

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Postby skinsfaninroanoke » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:24 pm

I wanna do a flash thing showing him running in all sorts of various plays with "Can't stop the Rock" playing in the background. Seems like every time he gets the ball he makes something good happen.
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