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cowboykillerzRGiii
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm choosing to believe our Oline is a lot better then we saw sat, and not just because we lacked 3 starters.

I think the Shanny is so tenuous, he wanted to pressure RGiii NOW rather then later in the REAL season. Laugh all you want but that is a GREAT idea. Let him get hurried, hit, and sacked NOW toget that experience he needs. We saw RGiii remain poised and shake off bad plays coming back strong. There is a lot of things he gained this week- oh and he still didn't throw any ints
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cowboykillerzRED wrote:
I'm choosing to believe our Oline is a lot better then we saw sat, and not just because we lacked 3 starters.

I think the Shanny is so tenuous, he wanted to pressure RGiii NOW rather then later in the REAL season. Laugh all you want but that is a GREAT idea. Let him get hurried, hit, and sacked NOW toget that experience he needs. We saw RGiii remain poised and shake off bad plays coming back strong. There is a lot of things he gained this week- oh and he still didn't throw any ints


That can be placed under the list of DC "conspiracy theories". There is a full 0% chance this was the case.

First off, MS doesn't want to see RGIII get pressure EVER -- especially in the pre-season when he could easily get injured.

I agree with you that is better to experience pressure when it doesn't count -- but lets get real, coaches would much prefer their players getting their footwork, timing, WR relationships, routes, game speed, etc. down FIRST without being under pressure. That is what the preseason is all about for rookie players. In addition, the slight risk of injury is 100% not worth the risk.

The fact is that our OL is in really bad shape. They are NOT good. Believe what you want, but please be realistic. I (and most I am sure) saw absoutely nothing that would make me say we have an OL that will adequately support a rookie QB learning to adjust to NFL defenses. Without question, they will be our greatest liability this year.
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cowboykillerzRED wrote:
I'm choosing to believe our Oline is a lot better then we saw sat, and not just because we lacked 3 starters.


Lets not make our OL situation sound worse than what it is (that of bad enough). The OL was missing two starters. Unless you are referring to J Brown as a starter which I think is like calling buying lottery tickets a retirement strategy. You have about as much can of winning the lottery as JB has of ever starting another game for the Redskins.

Counting on KL to start at LG was pretty risky too and was a significant gamble.

Going into the season counting on JB to start at RT was reckless, bouldering on irresponsible. So I'm guessing MS was never really counting on him being the stater.

He also couldn't have had much faith in KL being ready or else he wouldn't have pursued FA guards.
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duplicate

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Kory L. is working in team drills this week . There may be a chance he could play in last preseason game ...Hope he bounces back because we need him healthy back out there this season.
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chester likely to play against the Colts.... Cool If we get Chester and Kory L back that we would be a huge upgrade to the line. Trent being our best and Chester and Kory are serviceable line men that can hold there own. Might could take our line from an" F" to a "C" grade line.

I still going to give the defensive secondary the low grade of the team.

I going to give the WR depth high grade of the team this year with defensive front just behind it.
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trent Williams vs the Dallas Cowboys on Monday Night 2011

For the first time, I really taking note on the athleticsim that Shanny boasts about Trent. You can still see some laziness on his part because he knows he has the quick feet to make up for it. He does seem to bring his "A" game against Ware.
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinpride1 wrote:
Chester likely to play against the Colts.... Cool If we get Chester and Kory L back that we would be a huge upgrade to the line. Trent being our best and Chester and Kory are serviceable line men that can hold there own. Might could take our line from an" F" to a "C" grade line.
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ooo boy. watch out, league. the redskins oline might (emphasis on might) be upgraded to mediocre.

championship.
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the poster wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
Chester likely to play against the Colts.... Cool If we get Chester and Kory L back that we would be a huge upgrade to the line. Trent being our best and Chester and Kory are serviceable line men that can hold there own. Might could take our line from an" F" to a "C" grade line.
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ooo boy. watch out, league. the redskins oline might (emphasis on might) be upgraded to mediocre.

championship.


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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BOM....
ROASTED!

We need a block/ignore feature eh?
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cowboykillerzRED wrote:
We need a block/ignore feature eh?

You have one already. It's the scroll wheel on your mouse. Idea
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markshark84 wrote:
I screamed about this for years including in the beginning of this season -- and will continue to do so. The skins need 3 additional "solid" OL before they can be a contender. Until this is done, we will be at best an 8-8 team.


I agree
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinpride1 wrote:
Chester likely to play against the Colts.... Cool If we get Chester and Kory L back that we would be a huge upgrade to the line. Trent being our best and Chester and Kory are serviceable line men that can hold there own. Might could take our line from an" F" to a "C" grade line.

I still going to give the defensive secondary the low grade of the team.

I going to give the WR depth high grade of the team this year with defensive front just behind it.


What about QB!?!?!

Griffin/Cousins/Grossman

Did you see Grossman step in against the Colts for the last quarter?!?! 8 for 8!!!! If that was anyone else we'd be going mad about him!!!

Clearly he's been watching the two new boys and learning a thing or two....
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
Chester likely to play against the Colts.... Cool If we get Chester and Kory L back that we would be a huge upgrade to the line. Trent being our best and Chester and Kory are serviceable line men that can hold there own. Might could take our line from an" F" to a "C" grade line.

I still going to give the defensive secondary the low grade of the team.

I going to give the WR depth high grade of the team this year with defensive front just behind it.


What about QB!?!?!

Griffin/Cousins/Grossman

Did you see Grossman step in against the Colts for the last quarter?!?! 8 for 8!!!! If that was anyone else we'd be going mad about him!!!

Clearly he's been watching the two new boys and learning a thing or two....


Thats grossman for ya play good one game then the bad rex shows back up,

QB.....Rookie years.

we still look good at WR for a change.

I didnt put to much into the colts game , i liked we looked good but lets see how we do against a top defense again like the bears.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rex Grossman is a QB who has started and won quite a few games. He should tear up the B team of the Indianapolis Colts (who will be awful).
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