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skinsfan#33
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ACW wrote: | | Countertrey wrote: | | ACW wrote: | | How was the hit not penalized? I know RGIII was the runner, so no defenseless, but it was TO THE HEAD. |
You need to review the rules... There was nothing to penalize. Bob had no chance of picking up a first down. Bob needs to step out of bounds, to avoid LEGAL contact from opponents unecessarily. |
Isn't any hit to the head a penalty? If not, it SHOULD be. |
No, not yet, but I'm sure it soon will be. I think that a blow to the head should be a blow to the head. Does it hurt less if you're not in the pocket or a defenseless receiver?
If a blow to the head is illegal for some plays it should be illegal four all plays.
With that said, it isn't now and that was a legal play. Of course Fletcher put almost the exact same hit on Tom Brady last year (or the year before) and it drew a yellow hanky (and a fine - I think).
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cowboykillerzRGiii
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: |
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How likely is he to play this weekend? I'd probably sit him, but its a game HE can win for us Idk |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:03 am Post subject: |
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RG3 cleared to practice ...
but
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark-judge/20527526/the-problem-with-rg3-what-to-do-next
as this article points out - he should not be put on the field unless they can both game plan for him to not take the hits
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that they are sure 'he gets it'
we need RG3 for the next 10+ years ... NOT just for this season
we most likely do not win this game without him at QB but ..... |
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Countertrey
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| skinsfan#33 wrote: | | ACW wrote: | | Countertrey wrote: | | ACW wrote: | | How was the hit not penalized? I know RGIII was the runner, so no defenseless, but it was TO THE HEAD. |
You need to review the rules... There was nothing to penalize. Bob had no chance of picking up a first down. Bob needs to step out of bounds, to avoid LEGAL contact from opponents unecessarily. |
Isn't any hit to the head a penalty? If not, it SHOULD be. |
No, not yet, but I'm sure it soon will be. I think that a blow to the head should be a blow to the head. Does it hurt less if you're not in the pocket or a defenseless receiver?
If a blow to the head is illegal for some plays it should be illegal four all plays.
With that said, it isn't now and that was a legal play. Of course Fletcher put almost the exact same hit on Tom Brady last year (or the year before) and it drew a yellow hanky (and a fine - I think). |
Not likely... ball carriers would simply be trained to lower their heads to ensure contact, and draw penalties... you cannot legislate this... it is either a contact game, or it is not. You CAN legislate against taking aim at a players head when unable to protect himself... you cannot penalize incidental contact in making a tackle...
The call against Fletch was pure crap... |
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fetus
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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And how likely is the coaching staff to listen to a CBS article for advice
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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The staff and FO will make the right call here - Mike has already indicated that there's a procedure in place for medical clearance that is outside the organization
these guys know how important this kid is to the future of this franchise and they would be signing their ticket out of here if they don't make the right choice |
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Redskin in Canada
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | The staff and FO will make the right call here - Mike has already indicated that there's a procedure in place for medical clearance that is outside the organization
these guys know how important this kid is to the future of this franchise and they would be signing their ticket out of here if they don't make the right choice |
Be that as it may, I would seat him an extra week just as a precaution.
Based on my own experience, a week may not be enough. Yes, he "could" play but a hit that may not have been dangerous before, all of the sudden is now. Not worth it. |
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Red_One43
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cowboykillerzRGiii
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Not surprised the Shanny is hush hush.. for all we know rgiii failed tests but the Shanny wants it to remain a mystery if RGiii is gonna play or not. Who knows. We don't. |
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1niksder
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| Countertrey wrote: |
The call against Fletch was pure crap... |
If we want to be factual here... that call wasn't against Fletcher, it was FOR Brady 
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Be that as it may, I would seat him an extra week just as a precaution.
Based on my own experience, a week may not be enough. Yes, he "could" play but a hit that may not have been dangerous before, all of the sudden is now. Not worth it. |
+1
It doesn't matter if Shanny says who will play if RGIII doesn't, no team has to prepare for RG3int  |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| Redskin in Canada wrote: | .... I would seat him an extra week just as a precaution.
Based on my own experience, a week may not be enough. Yes, he "could" play but a hit that may not have been dangerous before, all of the sudden is now. Not worth it. |
I also agree - why not err on the side of caution
I think that decision has already been made |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | Redskin in Canada wrote: | .... I would seat him an extra week just as a precaution.
Based on my own experience, a week may not be enough. Yes, he "could" play but a hit that may not have been dangerous before, all of the sudden is now. Not worth it. |
I also agree - why not err on the side of caution
I think that decision has already been made |
Do you mean the decision has been made to sit him, or just that the decision has been made, and we will see come Sunday? |
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welch
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Redskin in Canada wrote: | | SkinsJock wrote: | The staff and FO will make the right call here - Mike has already indicated that there's a procedure in place for medical clearance that is outside the organization
these guys know how important this kid is to the future of this franchise and they would be signing their ticket out of here if they don't make the right choice |
Be that as it may, I would seat him an extra week just as a precaution.
Based on my own experience, a week may not be enough. Yes, he "could" play but a hit that may not have been dangerous before, all of the sudden is now. Not worth it. |
I agree.
Alex Karras.
Great player, fine comic actor ("Mongo"!), and Karras delivered most of the hits. Even so, his wife says that during the last years, Karras could no longer remember enough of his favorite recipes to cook. He was 77.
It's better to be safe with RG3's brain. |
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SkinsJock
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I think that the decision has been made by RGIII, Mike, Kyle and the 'independent' medical person
we are most likely seeing RGIII this week
The player and the play caller will not be taking unnecessary risks
IF it was my call he would not be playing much if at all
I certainly understand that this is a contact sport and it's not like RGIII does not fully grasp the risks of playing |
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The Hogster
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| He's playing people. Buck up. |
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