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absinthe1023
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:
word has it that billy cundiff tried to commit suicide but he failed miserably because he couldn't kick the chair out from under him

That's more like it... Thanks for getting us back on topic! Laughing


An oldie but a goody (and one that I first heard in reference to Mark Mosely, unfortunately).

My all-time favorite joke of this type was the one that circulated soon after Super Bowl XXII:


Redskins Fan #1: Poor John Elway. He went home after the Super Bowl and couldn't even get into his house, had to stay in a hotel overnight.

Redskins Fan #2: Really? How come?

Redskins Fan #1: Because somebody painted an endzone in front of his
door!
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rskin72
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forbath did well today.....a 49 yd kick right off the bat. Only one game, but maybe we have found our kicker.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rskin72 wrote:
Forbath did well today.....a 49 yd kick right off the bat. Only one game, but maybe we have found our kicker.

And he's young, too. If he's good, we could have solved a situation that has gone on almost as long as QB, before RGIII. A good kicker is so important! I don't want to even guess at the number of games we've lost in the last 20 years due to missed FGs.


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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Forbath is our guy. Only one game, and one kick. But, I've got a hunch. Liked what I've seen from him
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hogster wrote:
I think Forbath is our guy. Only one game, and one kick. But, I've got a hunch. Liked what I've seen from him


His 50 yarder looked very good, so that was promising -- and he was probably nervous since it was his first NFL kick, so that made it even better.

I would have liked to have seen more touchbacks on kickoffs though. He had 7 kickoffs with 3 returns -- 2 of which ended up in scoring drives. That is really the only thing I could see that wasn't ideal.

All in all a great showing by the new kicker, though.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markshark84 wrote:
I would have liked to have seen more touchbacks on kickoffs though. He had 7 kickoffs with 3 returns -- 2 of which ended up in scoring drives. That is really the only thing I could see that wasn't ideal


Harvin is one of the top return men in the game, too. I would like to see some more out of the back of the end zone, though. The FG was awesome.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He looks smaller than Banks.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Against very good, fast returners, you must be able to do a couple of things to be effective on KO's... pin them to the corner of the end zone... did that 3 times, very well... or kick it to the back of the end zone... not so much. Line drive kickoffs to the middle will always give an advantage to the returner... not enough hang time for the coverage to get there...

We have found our kicker... but he really needs to work on KO Hang time and distance...
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Forbath signing shed light into what we have heard about Shanny as a personnel guy.

It has been said that Shanny believes that he can coach up anyone with talent. He has had his successes, but, he has bombed with his failures - McNabb and now, Cundif.

Having played TB in the preseson and Forbath kicking a 40+ yard FG against us in that game, while Cundif failed miserably on his 40+ yarder, Shanny opted to stay with Cundif and not even bring in Forbath for a tryout. Why?

Cundif had what Shanny coveted - a touchback KO leg. The FG thing? Oh Cundif will get it together after Shanny talks to him - Didn't happen. We heard about this kind of personnel stuff at the end of Shanny's Denver tenure and it led to his downfall.

Forsbath is a good kicker. Good enough for Dallas to keep him on IR last season, but not good enough on KOs to get him a kicking job at the start of the season, but Shanny hopefully was reminded how valuable a 50 + yard kicker is to have on the team. We don't make that FG and I don't think we win that game. A miss would give the Vikes a short field and more momentum. The successful FG gave us the lift we needed.

I keep telling myself don't even go there about what if we had this guy all season long. Just leave it alone and look forward.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Countertrey wrote:
Against very good, fast returners, you must be able to do a couple of things to be effective on KO's... pin them to the corner of the end zone... did that 3 times, very well... or kick it to the back of the end zone... not so much. Line drive kickoffs to the middle will always give an advantage to the returner... not enough hang time for the coverage to get there...

We have found our kicker... but he really needs to work on KO Hang time and distance...


I agree with what you say. All of Forbath's kicks made it to the end zone, but none made it out of the end zone, thus preventing even the possibility of a return by a dangerous return man. By contrast...seemed like every one of the Vikings kicker's kick-off's went well out of the end zone, eliminating Banks on the return game. At the end, Forbath started to directional kick to one side of the end zone or the other....and that helped to limit Harvin's ability to return....and unlike Gano, his directional kicks actually made it to the end zone vice going out of bounds.

So...heard the reasons why a kicker might make long kick-offs but not FG's....seems like we have the opposite here. Unlike Cundiff, however, whose track history was readily apparent, the book is still open with Forbath.

Do know that everyone in the section I sit in were very happy with that first kick!!!
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious.. what did it sound like from TV land when he made his first kick? Cuz damn near everyone in the crowd stood up and made a bunch of noise.. LOL
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

langleyparkjoe wrote:
Just curious.. what did it sound like from TV land when he made his first kick? Cuz damn near everyone in the crowd stood up and made a bunch of noise.. LOL


About like that! Laughing
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cvillehog wrote:
langleyparkjoe wrote:
Just curious.. what did it sound like from TV land when he made his first kick? Cuz damn near everyone in the crowd stood up and made a bunch of noise.. LOL


About like that! Laughing


Laughing Well aite den!!!
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

langleyparkjoe wrote:
Just curious.. what did it sound like from TV land when he made his first kick? Cuz damn near everyone in the crowd stood up and made a bunch of noise.. LOL


Honestly, it may have sounded a little louder but not significantly given the fact most crowds cheer when their team makes FGs -- but Fedex is just a horrible stadium and it never sounds very loud. The only time it was really loud was when RGIII ran for the 76 yd TD. Although this will never in a 100 years happen -- I wish they would renovate RFK and move the team back there. RFK had character. Fedex is just one big walking corporate sponsorship.

I actually think the most expressive (no loudest just you knew why people were cheering) reaction I heard from the crowd was when RGIII ran out of bounds on his first QB scramble in the first quarter.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markshark84 wrote:
langleyparkjoe wrote:
Just curious.. what did it sound like from TV land when he made his first kick? Cuz damn near everyone in the crowd stood up and made a bunch of noise.. LOL


Honestly, it may have sounded a little louder but not significantly given the fact most crowds cheer when their team makes FGs -- but Fedex is just a horrible stadium and it never sounds very loud. The only time it was really loud was when RGIII ran for the 76 yd TD. Although this will never in a 100 years happen -- I wish they would renovate RFK and move the team back there. RFK had character. Fedex is just one big walking corporate sponsorship.

I actually think the most expressive (no loudest just you knew why people were cheering) reaction I heard from the crowd was when RGIII ran out of bounds on his first QB scramble in the first quarter.


Hahahaha!!!! Yea we were cissed when he stepped out.. we were like.. GO DOWN! GO DOWN! RUN OUT! Laughing

I have no problems with Fedex, I appreciate the fact we have so many seats and I 100% love the parking lots because people can tailgate no matter where they are. RFK may have been nice back in the days but to go back there now we'd have to eliminate plenty of tickets and hire DC Police to patrol that area for the entire game.
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