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Hog
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hankerson will be just fine. Every receiver has a drop now and then. |
you start your defense of him by mentioning his drops. you are assuming that my (and others) issue with him.
my critique of him doesnt even begin with the fact that he has shown POOR hands to this point.
My issue with him is he is not fluid in and out of breaks and has TERRIBLE power off the ball. I've seen him. Ive critiqued him. And you know what that means? That means he's easily coverable.
He's lanky, runs herky-jerky, and maybe it's his number, but he reminds me of Darnerian McCants. I don't see much for this guy in the NFL. Not much at all.
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Hankerson can be dominate within 30 yards |
no he cant. he wont get a better opportunity to play in the NFL than right here and right now. He's not going to get clear starting chances ever again like this one. and he's doing nothing with it.
by the way, he plays extremely soft. |
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Countertrey
the 'mudge
Joined: 09 Jan 2004
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Location: Curmudgeon Corner, Maine
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Don't. Just... don't.
Jeeze, people.  |
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mastdark81
Hog
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| the poster wrote: | | mastdark81 wrote: |
Hankerson will be just fine. Every receiver has a drop now and then. |
you start your defense of him by mentioning his drops. you are assuming that my (and others) issue with him.
my critique of him doesnt even begin with the fact that he has shown POOR hands to this point.
My issue with him is he is not fluid in and out of breaks and has TERRIBLE power off the ball. I've seen him. Ive critiqued him. And you know what that means? That means he's easily coverable.
He's lanky, runs herky-jerky, and maybe it's his number, but he reminds me of Darnerian McCants. I don't see much for this guy in the NFL. Not much at all.
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Hankerson can be dominate within 30 yards |
no he cant. he wont get a better opportunity to play in the NFL than right here and right now. He's not going to get clear starting chances ever again like this one. and he's doing nothing with it.
by the way, he plays extremely soft. |
I can agree with alot of your points. I seen him every game in college so i might be biased. College definitely not the pros but i believe.they r not using him the right way nor do i believe hes 100healthy from hip surgery. Considering our offense is cool this year and not the problem, all Im saying is give him and others time to mature. Rarely rwceivers come in the league come out smoking right away. Hes a 3rd rd pick developing, and a 3rd rd pick i mean cmon u expect to see Larry Fitz? |
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mastdark81
Hog
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| markshark84 wrote: | | mastdark81 wrote: | | the poster wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | StorminMormon86 wrote: | | langleyparkjoe wrote: | and as for Hankerson.. what da heck has he shown anyone? I mean really?
That guy can't even catch and he's supposed to be a WR???????????
Blaaaaaaaah |
+1
I remember catching a TON of flack for all of the people who were enamored with Hankerson for saying the exact same thing during the regular season. I kept hearing how good he was going to be in 2012 and I had no idea what anyone saw in this guy to have so much confidence in him. |
Some of us actually watch the games... |
and all of you were wrong. |
Hankerson will be just fine. Every receiver has a drop now and then. In the regular season he has been pretty sure handed. I think people remember him from hhis rookie preseason droppin balls and that has stuck in everyones minds. Fred Davis shook it and im sure he will the more he play.
Hankerson can be dominate within 30 yards but is not a deep ball guy, that was not his strength in college nor running after the catch. This is why he was a 3rd rd pick, he does not have the potential to be a gamebreaker.....and i dont think no one see him as so people who are optimistic just like his potential to be a steady reliable receiver that can move the chains.
Receivers take time, keep in mind he didnt have a chance to get better or really run in the offseason due to a misdiagnosis once again by our training staff. He will mature... |
I don't think Hankerson and "dominant" should ever be uttered in the same sentence. Hankerson just didn't have "a" drop. This has been a consistent problem SINCE COLLEGE that has not improved. Had he caught that pass, it could have changed the momentum of the game. Hankerson was thrown to 4 times and had 1 reception.
So basically you are saying he is a possession receiver. However, he doesn't use his body and has bad hands...... Aren't those the 2 major strengths of a possession receiver?????
Honestly, I don't see any potential in Hankerson. He is slow, can't run after the catch, has bad hands, doesn't run his routes well (he had 2 timing/route errors against PITT), has zero first step speed, can't create separation to save his life, and makes mental errors. I see him as a placeholder until something better comes along. We should in no way invest in him or in his ability to actually progress. While Moss had multiple drops yesterday, I would replace Hankerson with Moss and have Morgan as the other starter. Since Briscoe and Robinson are so horrendous, I actually would put Hankerson at the 3. If Hankerson doesn't fit as a 3, I would just alter playcalling so that Hankerson is typically the 3 or 4th option. |
WELL if hes THAT bad maybe Mike Shanahan needs to reevaluate how he selwcts receivers. Come to think about it he may be terrible at selecting them. Morgan nor anyone else has been any better. Fred Davis was the only receiving threat consistent |
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JSPB22
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Location: Location, LOCATION!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Countertrey wrote: | Don't. Just... don't.
Jeeze, people. |
And yet, they still do.  |
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mastdark81
Hog
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| markshark84 wrote: | | mastdark81 wrote: | | the poster wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | StorminMormon86 wrote: | | langleyparkjoe wrote: | and as for Hankerson.. what da heck has he shown anyone? I mean really?
That guy can't even catch and he's supposed to be a WR???????????
Blaaaaaaaah |
+1
I remember catching a TON of flack for all of the people who were enamored with Hankerson for saying the exact same thing during the regular season. I kept hearing how good he was going to be in 2012 and I had no idea what anyone saw in this guy to have so much confidence in him. |
Some of us actually watch the games... |
and all of you were wrong. |
Hankerson will be just fine. Every receiver has a drop now and then. In the regular season he has been pretty sure handed. I think people remember him from hhis rookie preseason droppin balls and that has stuck in everyones minds. Fred Davis shook it and im sure he will the more he play.
Hankerson can be dominate within 30 yards but is not a deep ball guy, that was not his strength in college nor running after the catch. This is why he was a 3rd rd pick, he does not have the potential to be a gamebreaker.....and i dont think no one see him as so people who are optimistic just like his potential to be a steady reliable receiver that can move the chains.
Receivers take time, keep in mind he didnt have a chance to get better or really run in the offseason due to a misdiagnosis once again by our training staff. He will mature... |
I don't think Hankerson and "dominant" should ever be uttered in the same sentence. Hankerson just didn't have "a" drop. This has been a consistent problem SINCE COLLEGE that has not improved. Had he caught that pass, it could have changed the momentum of the game. Hankerson was thrown to 4 times and had 1 reception.
So basically you are saying he is a possession receiver. However, he doesn't use his body and has bad hands...... Aren't those the 2 major strengths of a possession receiver?????
Honestly, I don't see any potential in Hankerson. He is slow, can't run after the catch, has bad hands, doesn't run his routes well (he had 2 timing/route errors against PITT), has zero first step speed, can't create separation to save his life, and makes mental errors. I see him as a placeholder until something better comes along. We should in no way invest in him or in his ability to actually progress. While Moss had multiple drops yesterday, I would replace Hankerson with Moss and have Morgan as the other starter. Since Briscoe and Robinson are so horrendous, I actually would put Hankerson at the 3. If Hankerson doesn't fit as a 3, I would just alter playcalling so that Hankerson is typically the 3 or 4th option. |
WELL if hes THAT bad maybe Mike Shanahan needs to reevaluate how he selwcts receivers. Come to think about it he may be terrible at selecting them. Morgan nor anyone else has been any better. Fred Davis was the only receiving threat consistent |
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SkinsJock
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Joined: 24 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: |
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just STUPID
posters that respond to trolls should be banned for a period so they can 'see' how stupid they are
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Deadskins
JSPB22
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Shouldn't that be DNFTT? Maybe that's why some folks continue to do it.  |
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SkinsJock
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Shouldn't that be DNFTT? Maybe that's why some folks continue to do it. |
ACTUALLY - it would not surprise me  |
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Bishop Hammer
piggie
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
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| The Hogster wrote: | Dear Carlos Rogers - Our bad.
Dear Ryan Clark - We sorry.
Dear Laron Landry - See what had happened was.. |
Whoooh yeah.  
I might have to rock my Landry jersey this Sun. |
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