What is the most important cause for the DEFENSE collapse?

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What is the most important cause for the DEFENSE collapse?

Lack of Draft and Free Agency effort by the FO
1
2%
Injuries and suspensions
10
22%
Poor 3-4 implementation & game planning by J. Hasleet
18
40%
Poor execution by an inept and incompetent bunch
9
20%
Cap penalty imposed by Mara & his puppet goddahell
7
16%
 
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Postby Red_One43 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:13 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:Darrell Green's and Charles Mann's opinions on what the problem is with the defense:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/11/05/darrell-green-charles-mann-poor-technique-to-blame-for-redskins-defensive-struggles/


Both former players see plenty of talent in the Redskins’ defensive ranks. And neither questions the schemes that Haslett has dialed up. But they question whether the players are being taught how to capitalize on their natural ability and elevate their games.


I have been arguing all along that this isn't mainly a talent issue. Both Mann and Green see enough talent. I have added, from John Keim's reports, that while the 3-4 is not the problem, the way Haz is running it is a major part of the problem.

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Postby CanesSkins26 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:33 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:Darrell Green's and Charles Mann's opinions on what the problem is with the defense:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/11/05/darrell-green-charles-mann-poor-technique-to-blame-for-redskins-defensive-struggles/


I feel like this is deserving of it's own thread. I'd hate to see it get lost in the mix. It's a fresh take on the situation and I'm inclined to believe it because it makes total sense.

The coaches we have are fine from a schematic POV. But we need people to teach technique... When you have an OL Coach switch over to DB's coach, how would he know their technique? I doubt he could. So he's teaching it? Or do they assume that the guys already know...? Sounds a lot like the regular "work force" to me. I deal with this everyday.


Good point. I'll start a new thread.
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Postby HEROHAMO » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:19 pm

Its all of the above except injuries and suspensions. However I do think if Merriwether can get his act together he could help a bit.
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Postby Deadskins » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:29 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:Its all of the above except injuries and suspensions.

:hmm:
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Postby SkinsJock » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:56 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:Its all of the above except injuries and suspensions. However I do think if Merriwether can get his act together he could help a bit.


actually ..... if the players and coaches get their acts together it would really help a lot :lol:
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Postby Kilmer72 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:18 pm

I'm sticking by my guns. Injuries and suspensions have most do do with it. It all comes into play. If key member aren't injured then things are much better. I agree coaching, Mara cap hit and all have a part. If you can only pick one I have to go with that.

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Postby 1niksder » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:45 am

Deadskins wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:Its all of the above except injuries and suspensions.

:hmm:


Lack of Draft and Free Agency effort by the FO, Poor 3-4 implementation & game planning by J. Haslett, Poor execution by an inept and incompetent bunch, and Cap penalty imposed by Mara & his puppet Goddahell

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Postby Deadskins » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:27 am

1niksder wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:Its all of the above except injuries and suspensions.

:hmm:


Lack of Draft and Free Agency effort by the FO, Poor 3-4 implementation & game planning by J. Haslett, Poor execution by an inept and incompetent bunch, and Cap penalty imposed by Mara & his puppet Goddahell

:shock:

Yeah, I got what he meant. I was scratching my head over how he thinks injuries and suspensions don't figure into it.
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Postby HEROHAMO » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:02 am

Deadskins wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:Its all of the above except injuries and suspensions.

:hmm:


You got head lice or something? Why you scratching your head? :lol:

Actually I take that back it is all of the above. Orakpo got hurt I forgot about that. So basically the reason the Defense has performed poorly is basically all the answers above.
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Postby Deadskins » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:15 am

I don't think you can discount Carriker's and Merriwether's injuries, or Jackson's suspension either.
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Postby SkinsJock » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:01 am

Deadskins wrote:I don't think you can discount Carriker's and Merriwether's injuries, or Jackson's suspension either.


+1 - ALSO that Jenkins has not shown the form he had before his injury

I think he's going to be a better player next year
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Postby Red_One43 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:21 pm

“I come to work, I work hard, I do the best I can with what we got and try to put these guys in position to win games and be successful on defense,” Haslett said Wednesday. “That’s all really I can do.”


Clearly Haz thinks that the talent is the reason why things are the way they are. When you read Shanny's comments in the article, it also appears that there will be no changes . Fit the players to the scheme! How many teams stick to that as religiously as Shanny?

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Postby StorminMormon86 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:02 pm

I voted for one Jim Haslett.

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