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 » It's ROY (Rookie of the Year) time!

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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd be hard to argue that anyone was more valuable to his team's success than RGIII. But the voters won't see it that way.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadskins wrote:
It'd be hard to argue that anyone was more valuable to his team's success than RGIII. But the voters won't see it that way.
Well, what about Rodgers? We still won with Cousins. GB would MAYBE go 2-14 w/o Rodgers.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazyhorse1 wrote:
By the way, how many still think Manning's still the best choice for MVP? I certainly don't. He took a playoff team back to the playoffs, then lost. Where's the improvement. Brady?-- same problem. Rodgers?--same. Wilson?--maybe.
Kaepernick?--not likely but maybe? Peterson?--tough to beat. Luck?--eighteen or nineteen interceptions and a fifty percent completion percentage. The Atlanta wonder?--I'm not convinced. Ok, so, that leaves somebody...somebody who?


CH, we both know that, among post season honors, the most political of all is MVP... While I won't agree, I have no doubt that it will be Manning...
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACW wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
It'd be hard to argue that anyone was more valuable to his team's success than RGIII. But the voters won't see it that way.
Well, what about Rodgers? We still won with Cousins. GB would MAYBE go 2-14 w/o Rodgers.


There is also the value to the league as a whole. Didn't Griff sell more jerseys than anyone? Weren't fans at other stadiums chanting RGIII? I'd imagine ratings were up for games he played.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is also the value to the league as a whole. Didn't Griff sell more jerseys than anyone? Weren't fans at other stadiums chanting RGIII? I'd imagine ratings were up for games he played.


Our SNF Dallas stomp to win the division set a record for viewers.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACW wrote:
We still won with Cousins.

Yeah, we beat Cleveland. Rolling Eyes
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly sure that these awards are based on the 16 games - NOT the post season

I have no doubt that RG3 wins the rookie of the year award - Luck, Morris and Wilson will all be there ...


IMO - AP wins the MVP

I would not be surprised to see Peyton, Brady and RG3 finish in the top 5
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SkinsJock wrote:
I'm fairly sure that these awards are based on the 16 games - NOT the post season

I have no doubt that RG3 wins the rookie of the year award - Luck, Morris and Wilson will all be there ...


IMO - AP wins the MVP

I would not be surprised to see Peyton, Brady and RG3 finish in the top 5


Can't remember the source, but I saw a favorites list on which Manning was way ahead and RG3 wasn't even a contender. I believe the top four were Manning, Rodgers, Brady, and Petersen.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Would love rg3 get mvp but i,m seeing the others manning,brady,peterson .
rookie of the year im seeing rg3 in the conversation.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarthMonk wrote:
ACW wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
It'd be hard to argue that anyone was more valuable to his team's success than RGIII. But the voters won't see it that way.
Well, what about Rodgers? We still won with Cousins. GB would MAYBE go 2-14 w/o Rodgers.


There is also the value to the league as a whole. Didn't Griff sell more jerseys than anyone? Weren't fans at other stadiums chanting RGIII? I'd imagine ratings were up for games he played.


If those were the standards, Tim Tebow would be the clear frontrunner............
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markshark84 wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
ACW wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
It'd be hard to argue that anyone was more valuable to his team's success than RGIII. But the voters won't see it that way.
Well, what about Rodgers? We still won with Cousins. GB would MAYBE go 2-14 w/o Rodgers.


There is also the value to the league as a whole. Didn't Griff sell more jerseys than anyone? Weren't fans at other stadiums chanting RGIII? I'd imagine ratings were up for games he played.


If those were the standards, Tim Tebow would be the clear frontrunner............

No, he wouldn't.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They announce the winner tonight at 9PM EST on CBS.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They announce the winner tonight at 9PM EST on CBS.


I'm actually fully expecting Russel Wilson to win. I don't think he should, but I think he will. He got a LOT of press from the playoffs, and even though it's a regular season award, I think that there will be carryover from all that positive coverage; it left a very positive view of Wilson in the minds of voters. Whereas now because RG3 got injured, I think that left a neutral taste in the mouth of voters.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus when you bring up the voting page, the video mention RW first, Luck second, and then they finally get around to RGIII. Still, the voting began right after the regular season ended, so RGIII may have built up an insurmountable lead. That, coupled with the amount of Skins fans vs. the amount of Shehawks fans, and I think RGIII takes this down along with all the others he's already won.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope he wins ROY, he deserves it. I really, really wish he did not get hurt though because it is hard to brag because people say he is injury prone, etc. I wish Russell Wilson played for another team because I like him and wish him well but he plays for a dirty team.

The problem is you have national guys like Mike & Mike who gush about whatever new shiny toy like it is the best ever - right now that is Kap and Wilson - RGIII has been forgotten.
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