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tribeofjudah
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| Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:57 pm Post subject: Skins "running" down Talib....??? |
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Wow, is the Danny back in control..........hahaha
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A source with knowledge of the situation tells USA Today the Redskins are going to "make a push" for free agent CB Aqib Talib.
The Redskins have one of the league's worst salary-cap situations, but a major need at cornerback after releasing DeAngelo Hall. Washington was 30th in pass defense last season. Redskins GM Bruce Allen drafted Talib in Tampa, while DBs coach Raheem Morris was his head coach. Making a long-term commitment to a player with Talib's off-the-field history would be a huge risk for a team in Washington's financial position, but prudence and patience have never been owner Dan Snyder's virtues. The more things change in Washington, the more they stay the same. |
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Irn-Bru
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| Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm. Could be a questionable move but it depends on what kind of contract this guy is able to acquire. Given his performance in New England last season, I don't think we need to worry too much about his ability to step in and play. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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So Bruce Allen is the GM who drafted Talib. Raheem Morris coached him. But, if the Skins pursue him, its a Danny move???
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SkinsJock
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IF Talib is coming here it's ONLY because of Mike's relationship with Belicheat AND Bruce (and Raheem) wanting him - NOT Dan Snyder - NO WAY
Finding 1 (OR even 2) great CBs is NOT solving our pass defensive woes
we need to put pressure on the QB MOST importantly and then we'll see a better pass defense |
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HTTRRG3ALMO
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| Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | IF Talib is coming here it's ONLY because of Mike's relationship with Belicheat AND Bruce (and Raheem) wanting him - NOT Dan Snyder - NO WAY
Finding 1 (OR even 2) great CBs is NOT solving our pass defensive woes
we need to put pressure on the QB MOST importantly and then we'll see a better pass defense |
We'll be getting a lot better in the pass pressure arena with some key returning players...that is if they can stay healthy for a year (not trying to be pessimistic).
I know I'm a broken record here, but we'll get some good talented safeties in the draft.
If, in FA, we get what we need (or "better" than we have) for a couple o-line spots & 2 good CBs, that puts us in an incredible spot for the draft.
We could grab 2 great safeties and an additional pass rusher. Our remaining picks could possibly even become "luxury" picks.
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ACW
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| SkinsJock wrote: | IF Talib is coming here it's ONLY because of Mike's relationship with Belicheat AND Bruce (and Raheem) wanting him - NOT Dan Snyder - NO WAY
Finding 1 (OR even 2) great CBs is NOT solving our pass defensive woes
we need to put pressure on the QB MOST importantly and then we'll see a better pass defense |
A healthy Orakpo and Carriker helps with that. |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | So Bruce Allen is the GM who drafted Talib. Raheem Morris coached him. But, if the Skins pursue him, its a Danny move???
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Don't come in here with your context clues, facts and common sense.
[quote="SkinsJock"]IF Talib is coming here it's ONLY because of Mike's relationship with Belicheat AND Bruce (and Raheem) wanting him - NOT Dan Snyder - NO WAY[quote="SkinsJock"]
What doest this even mean? People get jobs across the globe because of relationships all the time... It's normal. Hell, it's the easiest way to get ahead. It's all about who you know.
| SkinsJock wrote: | Finding 1 (OR even 2) great CBs is NOT solving our pass defensive woes
we need to put pressure on the QB MOST importantly and then we'll see a better pass defense |
You still need a solid #1 CB. Our pass rush will be adequate with Carriker and Orakpo returning. |
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SkinsJock
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | IF Talib is coming here it's ONLY because of Mike's relationship with Belicheat AND Bruce (and Raheem) wanting him - NOT Dan Snyder - NO WAY |
| Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | What does this even mean? People get jobs across the globe because of relationships all the time... It's normal. Hell, it's the easiest way to get ahead. It's all about who you know. |
only that Snyder is not 'interfering' as implied in that piece
Finding 1 (OR even 2) great CBs is NOT solving our pass defensive woes
we need to put pressure on the QB MOST importantly and then we'll see a better pass defense
| Quote: | | You still need a solid #1 CB. Our pass rush will be adequate with Carriker and Orakpo returning. |
we DO need a decent CB AND a safety AND the returning players WILL help - big time
the pass defense will get better, but, not ONLY because we 'improve' our secondary
I'm expecting a lot better pass defense this season because of the better play from the front 7
AND ... the better play from the secondary 
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langleyparkjoe
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | So Bruce Allen is the GM who drafted Talib. Raheem Morris coached him. But, if the Skins pursue him, its a Danny move???
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Yea that's the way I got it too bro |
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SCSkinsFan
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| Looks like there are a lot of players coming available, Talib being one of them, that could help the Skins upgrade their roster.The question is, how will they be able to afford any of them giving their lack of cap space? |
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Skinsfan55
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| Is it realistic to expect a corner to take a backloaded deal with the Redskins? I mean, this is why Shanahan hired Bruce Allen, to be a cap genius. Still, it seems like it's hard to imagine a guy taking less money this year for the promise of more in future years. |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| Skinsfan55 wrote: | | Is it realistic to expect a corner to take a backloaded deal with the Redskins? I mean, this is why Shanahan hired Bruce Allen, to be a cap genius. Still, it seems like it's hard to imagine a guy taking less money this year for the promise of more in future years. |
I guess it depends. If he has history with certain folks, he may trust them at their word... I doubt that our FO would pull a bait & switch, nobody would ever come here. |
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1niksder
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| Skinsfan55 wrote: | | Is it realistic to expect a corner to take a backloaded deal with the Redskins? I mean, this is why Shanahan hired Bruce Allen, to be a cap genius. Still, it seems like it's hard to imagine a guy taking less money this year for the promise of more in future years. |
Eric Schaffer the defacto contract man... the number cruncher... the capolgist, not Bruce Allen. |
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Skinsfan55
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I meant to say Snyder hired him, but my fingers did the talking. Shanahan probably factored prominently into the decision making anyway.
I didn't mean to ask if a player would trust the Redskins enough to take a backloaded deal, I meant it as: "Would a player want to take some delayed gratification to join the Redskins."
Same principle applies though, Talib would have to trust the GM/coaches a lot... and really like the fit. I'm really pulling for us to sign Talib. If we have one shot at getting a top FA on the team because of our cap situation I want it to be spent on him. Wilson had a rough year, but he's still a solid #2 corner. Talib would be a big upgrade on Hall IMO and I'm pulling hard for Meriweather. I think he looked great in limited action last season and he could be a dangerous player if healthy.
The Skins are going to have to take some risks in order to build a better team this offseason, and Talib would be a terrific gamble. |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| Skinsfan55 wrote: | I meant to say Snyder hired him, but my fingers did the talking. Shanahan probably factored prominently into the decision making anyway.
I didn't mean to ask if a player would trust the Redskins enough to take a backloaded deal, I meant it as: "Would a player want to take some delayed gratification to join the Redskins."
Same principle applies though, Talib would have to trust the GM/coaches a lot... and really like the fit. I'm really pulling for us to sign Talib. If we have one shot at getting a top FA on the team because of our cap situation I want it to be spent on him. Wilson had a rough year, but he's still a solid #2 corner. Talib would be a big upgrade on Hall IMO and I'm pulling hard for Meriweather. I think he looked great in limited action last season and he could be a dangerous player if healthy.
The Skins are going to have to take some risks in order to build a better team this offseason, and Talib would be a terrific gamble. |
If it's guaranteed, it's guaranteed... Personally, that's how I'd look at it. Unless he's living on the street, I'm sure a lighter salary intially won't bankrupt him. |
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