Barry Cofield Ranks As Top NT

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Postby HTTRRG3ALMO » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:08 pm

Been hearing a lot of praise about Jarvis Jenkins this off season. I'd like to see him step up strong as well. Two powerhouses on the front line is pretty scary considering our LBs.

Speaking of Jenkins, I wonder how our draft pick Brandon Jenkins would do on the line. I know he's an LB, but can't help to wonder. He seems to have a lot of power that could be molded to perfection.

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Postby The Hogster » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:13 pm

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Been hearing a lot of praise about Jarvis Jenkins this off season. I'd like to see him step up strong as well. Two powerhouses on the front line is pretty scary considering our LBs.

Speaking of Jenkins, I wonder how our draft pick Brandon Jenkins would do on the line. I know he's an LB, but can't help to wonder. He seems to have a lot of power that could be molded to perfection.


If he played in a 4-3, he'd play End, but in a 3-4, the D Ends are more like agile Defensive Tackles who take on Guards, Tackles & Double Teams, for which he'd be undersized by 40-50lbs. Not that it's impossible, but most 3-4 ends are in the 300lb category like Carriker, Jenkins, and Bowen.
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Re: Barry Cofield Ranks As Top NT

Postby mastdark81 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:37 am

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1niksder wrote:Barry Cofield Ranks As Top NT In Business

Redskins.com intern Chris DeLisi shares an interesting tidbit about Redskins NT Barry Cofield.

Over the course of the last two seasons, the Washington Redskins have seen three quarterbacks take the field, five different running backs record a carry, and multiple safeties cracking the starting lineup.
Despite the multitude of changes on a team in transition, one thing has remained the same: nose tackle Barry Cofield anchoring the center of Jim Haslett’s 3-4 defense.
While Cofield didn’t have the opportunity to dig his toes (or should I say hands) in the sands of Hawaii at this year’s Pro Bowl, he can claim what no other defense lineman can–being the best nose tackle in the business.
In a recent ranking made by CBSSports.com’s Pat Kirwan, Cofield rates as the NFL’s No. 1 DT playing in a 3-4 scheme.

When analyzing sacks, hurries and knockdowns, Cofield blew away the competition–he led all 3-4 DTs with a 21.5, while the next player on the leaderboard only had 4.5.



WHAT they dont tell you is how many hurries per Qb drop back which is a more accurate assessment since as a D we stayed on the field for more snaps probably more than any 3-4 defense.

Furthermore since our NT and d is a run stop first type of philosophy,I think he fares better in run stopping stats per game.

Still, a 5-1 ratio over the next closest player? That's not just scheme.[/quote

You have seen the games, Cofield is just a good NT but not in an elite category, no matter what the guys generic stats say. Hes strong in the run and an average pass rusher. Im sure hes respected around the league but not as much to be on any all pro team or labeled top NT

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Re: Barry Cofield Ranks As Top NT

Postby SkinsJock » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:13 am

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1niksder wrote:Barry Cofield Ranks As Top NT In Business

Redskins.com intern Chris DeLisi shares an interesting tidbit about Redskins NT Barry Cofield.

Over the course of the last two seasons, the Washington Redskins have seen three quarterbacks take the field, five different running backs record a carry, and multiple safeties cracking the starting lineup.
Despite the multitude of changes on a team in transition, one thing has remained the same: nose tackle Barry Cofield anchoring the center of Jim Haslett’s 3-4 defense.
While Cofield didn’t have the opportunity to dig his toes (or should I say hands) in the sands of Hawaii at this year’s Pro Bowl, he can claim what no other defense lineman can–being the best nose tackle in the business.
In a recent ranking made by CBSSports.com’s Pat Kirwan, Cofield rates as the NFL’s No. 1 DT playing in a 3-4 scheme.

When analyzing sacks, hurries and knockdowns, Cofield blew away the competition–he led all 3-4 DTs with a 21.5, while the next player on the leaderboard only had 4.5.


WHAT they dont tell you is how many hurries per Qb drop back which is a more accurate assessment since as a D we stayed on the field for more snaps probably more than any 3-4 defense.

Furthermore since our NT and d is a run stop first type of philosophy,I think he fares better in run stopping stats per game.

Still, a 5-1 ratio over the next closest player? That's not just scheme.


... Cofield is just a good NT but not in an elite category, no matter what the guys generic stats say. He's strong in the run and an average pass rusher. Im sure he's respected around the league but not as much to be on any all pro team or labeled top NT


maybe .... in your estimation ... that's an intriguing ratio IMO :wink:
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Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:26 pm

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Postby HEROHAMO » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:43 pm

I have to say I am very surprised as well. I always thought he was solid but never knew he was that good stat wise.

I still feel our Dline would be that much better with another Nose tackle and moving Cofield to LDE/RDE. Still it is not like our Dline is a weakness. Our secondary obviously was the weakness last year. So I am glad we addressed the secondary in the draft.

Kudos to big Barry C. :D
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Postby Countertrey » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:18 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:I have to say I am very surprised as well. I always thought he was solid but never knew he was that good stat wise.

I still feel our Dline would be that much better with another Nose tackle and moving Cofield to LDE/RDE. Still it is not like our Dline is a weakness. Our secondary obviously was the weakness last year. So I am glad we addressed the secondary in the draft.

Kudos to big Barry C. :D
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Postby 1niksder » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:08 am

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HEROHAMO wrote:I have to say I am very surprised as well. I always thought he was solid but never knew he was that good stat wise.

I still feel our Dline would be that much better with another Nose tackle and moving Cofield to LDE/RDE. Still it is not like our Dline is a weakness. Our secondary obviously was the weakness last year. So I am glad we addressed the secondary in the draft.

Kudos to big Barry C. :D
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Postby HEROHAMO » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:07 am

Albert who? Fat Albert?
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Postby Countertrey » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:47 am

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HEROHAMO wrote:I have to say I am very surprised as well. I always thought he was solid but never knew he was that good stat wise.

I still feel our Dline would be that much better with another Nose tackle and moving Cofield to LDE/RDE. Still it is not like our Dline is a weakness. Our secondary obviously was the weakness last year. So I am glad we addressed the secondary in the draft.

Kudos to big Barry C. :D
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Postby Kilmer72 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:08 pm

Countertrey wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:I have to say I am very surprised as well. I always thought he was solid but never knew he was that good stat wise.

I still feel our Dline would be that much better with another Nose tackle and moving Cofield to LDE/RDE. Still it is not like our Dline is a weakness. Our secondary obviously was the weakness last year. So I am glad we addressed the secondary in the draft.

Kudos to big Barry C. :D
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What a shame. He could have been the best if he wanted it.

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Postby yupchagee » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:38 pm

Countertrey wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:I have to say I am very surprised as well. I always thought he was solid but never knew he was that good stat wise.

I still feel our Dline would be that much better with another Nose tackle and moving Cofield to LDE/RDE. Still it is not like our Dline is a weakness. Our secondary obviously was the weakness last year. So I am glad we addressed the secondary in the draft.

Kudos to big Barry C. :D
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Postby HTTRRG3ALMO » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:17 pm

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HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Been hearing a lot of praise about Jarvis Jenkins this off season. I'd like to see him step up strong as well. Two powerhouses on the front line is pretty scary considering our LBs.

Speaking of Jenkins, I wonder how our draft pick Brandon Jenkins would do on the line. I know he's an LB, but can't help to wonder. He seems to have a lot of power that could be molded to perfection.


If he played in a 4-3, he'd play End, but in a 3-4, the D Ends are more like agile Defensive Tackles who take on Guards, Tackles & Double Teams, for which he'd be undersized by 40-50lbs. Not that it's impossible, but most 3-4 ends are in the 300lb category like Carriker, Jenkins, and Bowen.


Understood. Thanks for the clarity Hogster!

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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:06 am

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:
The Hogster wrote:
HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Been hearing a lot of praise about Jarvis Jenkins this off season. I'd like to see him step up strong as well. Two powerhouses on the front line is pretty scary considering our LBs.

Speaking of Jenkins, I wonder how our draft pick Brandon Jenkins would do on the line. I know he's an LB, but can't help to wonder. He seems to have a lot of power that could be molded to perfection.


If he played in a 4-3, he'd play End, but in a 3-4, the D Ends are more like agile Defensive Tackles who take on Guards, Tackles & Double Teams, for which he'd be undersized by 40-50lbs. Not that it's impossible, but most 3-4 ends are in the 300lb category like Carriker, Jenkins, and Bowen.


Understood. Thanks for the clarity Hogster!


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