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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:10 am

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tribeofjudah wrote:as I said...........we have 4 qbs for training camp. What's the plan here.


Same as always. Just with White and no Johnathan Crompton.


I don't get why this is confusing to people.

Pat will not be on this team during the regualr season (if he makes it) for his QB prowness. He will be a utility player. Another threat within the option. Possibly a returner. Pat White allows mike to get production out of a player while also having him serve the role of a third QB...

Some people don't like the idea of only having 2 QB's active. If Pat can be productive, make the roster and be a decent offensive player out the backfiled, from the slot, receiving and passing... He's our trojan horse third QB...

Of course that's assuming he can last. But I'd much rather talk about scenarios that benefit the team than drone on and on about what won't work. Obviously people didn't get enough crow last year.
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Postby Countertrey » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:56 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Obviously people didn't get enough crow last year.


I have a feeling they will get PLENTY this year!
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Postby DarthMonk » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:58 pm

CSN Washington believes the Redskins are considering carrying just two quarterbacks this season.

Reporter Rich Tandler takes the presence of four tight ends and kickoff specialist John Potter as a sign that coach Mike Shanahan may be prepared to go forward with only Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins under center. That would be a risky proposition considering RGIII's health, but would leave Rex Grossman as the odd man out. Although he's one of Shanahan's favorite players, Grossman didn't attempt a single pass in 2012.

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Postby Deadskins » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:24 pm

That would be a risky proposition considering RGIII's health

Not really. First, I suspect RGIII will be 100% by game 1. And second, it's not like Rexy won't still be out there in case there were a setback. I don't think anyone is really that desperate. I could see a division rival picking him up to pump him for info on the offense, though. :-k
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Postby Irn-Bru » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:28 am

DarthMonk wrote:CSN Washington believes the Redskins are considering carrying just two quarterbacks this season.

Reporter Rich Tandler takes the presence of four tight ends and kickoff specialist John Potter as a sign that coach Mike Shanahan may be prepared to go forward with only Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins under center. That would be a risky proposition considering RGIII's health, but would leave Rex Grossman as the odd man out. Although he's one of Shanahan's favorite players, Grossman didn't attempt a single pass in 2012.

Jun 26 - 3:32 PM

Source: CSN Washington


What's really the risk? Say RGIII suffers a season-ending injury. Then you bring in Rex Grossman off the streets. As long as Kirk doesn't go down in the same game, we're pretty much in the same place we would have been having Rex on the team all along.

The only risk I can see is another team grabbing Rex if we cut him. Could happen, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Postby SkinsJock » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:50 am

The only thing different this season from last is that Mike & Kyle have 2 QBs that they know can play well - I don't know if they still will feel they need to keep Rex

and

by the end of training camp there will not be any talk or conversation about RG3 - he is going to be as good and most likely a better QB than he was before last season

If they decide to go with 3 QBs it will not be because of concerns about the knee
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Postby riggofan » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:50 am

SkinsJock wrote:If they decide to go with 3 QBs it will not be because of concerns about the knee


What other reason would it be??

If RGIII's knee is good to go, and Cousins has a decent preseason, I think Rex is gone.

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Postby SkinsJock » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:03 pm

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SkinsJock wrote:If they decide to go with 3 QBs it will not be because of concerns about the knee

What other reason would it be??

If RGIII's knee is good to go, and Cousins has a decent preseason, I think Rex is gone.


IF we keep 3 QBs ... it will NOT have anything to do with RG3's knee :lol:
RG3's knee is not yet "good to go" - it will be
Kirk will ALSO be better than last season ...

why would you keep 3 QBs :wink:
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Postby riggofan » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:17 pm

I wouldn't keep 3 QBs unless there is concern about RGIII's knee. That's kind of my point.

You've said if we keep 3 QBs it won't have anything to do with the knee. So why else would they keep 3 QBs? To mentor more? To have an overpriced third stringer? Because they love Rex? Why?

Are you just trying to say you think RGIII's knee won't be a problem so its a moot point?

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Postby DarthMonk » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:23 pm

I would keep 3 simply because with 2 you're always one play away from needing a backup. I'm guessing most teams keep 3 but don't know that for sure.

In Rexy's favor is his knowledge of the offense. Also, he's more valuable to us than he is to anyone else unless he's on a team playing us.

He probably has a "job" here one way or the other come this fall.
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Postby oj » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:51 pm

I can see White as a special team or utility player - Thiesman was a punt returner, not toi mention him being backup punter lol, and its time for Rex to seek other oppertunities - trade maybe?
Cousins is worth his weight in gold right now, think about it. He is for sure a loyal RedSkin.
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Postby HTTRRG3ALMO » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:23 pm

Shanny seems happy with what Pat White has been doing. Not that I'm really expecting much from this kid, but who knows what kind of conditioning this kid will have.

Either way, he's a great practice squad guy for our defense. Just because of curiosity, I'm looking forward to seeing White take some snaps in the pre-season games. Maybe I'll get surprised once or twice.

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Postby SkinsJock » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:53 am

RG3's knee is still a bit of a concern but from all accounts, RG3 will be ready to go by game 1 ...
my point was that if they decide to have 3 QBs it will not be based on RG3's knee ....

BECAUSE

We all know that Cousins is a great back up QB and White is not looked at as being a QB in the near term

so

IMO we keep 1 of the other 2 QBs ...

Kirk is the back up here this season but this franchise may have to trade him - he's a good QB - he deserves a shot to start
Griffin will become a really good QB but it's going to take time

We are lucky to have Cousins - hopefully he can continue to play well

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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:04 am

SkinsJock wrote:RG3's knee is still a bit of a concern but from all accounts, RG3 will be ready to go by game 1 ...


Man, we're going to be sick season long. Every time he gets hit, I'll be holding my breath.


SkinsJock wrote:We all know that Cousins is a great back up QB and White is not looked at as being a QB in the near term


I wonder how people feel about White and if he's being categorized correctly. Are we expecting 2nd round talent out of White because he was drafted there in 2009? Or are we judging him as what he is, a third string QB? I don't believe that the media is judging him under those conditions either. I'd expect MOST third string QB's to look like crap, lol.

IMHO, I still think White makes the team as part of the evolution of this offense. Kyle stated in an article that he's staying ahead of the curve, because obviously defensive coordinators are trying to close the gap. I think White will be an EMERGENCY QB. EMERGENCY QB only. However, his role in the offense will be wildcat like. There are some 2 QB offense's in college. I dunno if Kyle will go that far or integrate anything like that, it's just speculation on my part. However, White is athletic and could add another dimension to the offense. To simply my point, due to our CAP penalty, he'll potentially be a very very poor mans Percy Harvin for us. Not that they're the same player, just in regards to him doing some gadget like plays.

And we'd still keep Rex but not dress him on Sundays. He's the mentor.

SkinsJock wrote:Kirk is the back up here this season but this franchise may have to trade him - he's a good QB - he deserves a shot to start


They won't trade him until RGIII makes it through 2 seasons without major injury, if they're smart.
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Postby Deadskins » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:04 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:And we'd still keep Rex but not dress him on Sundays. He's the mentor.

Four QBs? I highly doubt it.
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