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Postby EA7649 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:01 pm

Name 1 optimistic thing you like about this years team/future.
Name 1 negative thing you hate about this years team/future.
I'll start:
I think Jordan Reed is going to be a great Tight End =D>
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Postby Kilmer72 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:13 pm

+ Running backs

- coaching adjustments

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Postby SkinsJock » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:27 pm

on the plus side we have a QB and a number of good young players to build around

on the negative side we are not seeing the results from good coaching
RG3 is now learning how to play QB in the NFL - Mike & Kyle did not help with the transition

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Postby Hooligan » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:56 pm

+ Personnel department


- Coaching



I'm starting to believe that when the players perform well on the field, they do so in spite of the coaching staff.
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Postby brad7686 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:14 am

We have a lot of good, young players on offense.

We are not great in the trenches on either side of the ball
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Postby riggofan » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:43 am

+ RGIII/Cousins. I think we're set at QB for the foreseeable future.
- I'm worried the defense is too much of a mess to be fixed in the foreseeable future.

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Postby Deadskins » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:29 pm

brad7686 wrote:We have a lot of good, young players on offense.

We are not great in the trenches on either side of the ball

I think we have some good, young players on both sides of the ball.

We are weak along the O-line, and at Safety.
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Postby PAPDOG67 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:19 pm

+ Jordan Reed will be a top 5 TE going forward

- Jim Haslett. The time has come for him to get the ax. This once proud defense is an absolute mess right now. Get him out of here before next year or nothing will change!! and go back to a 4-3. Get Rak and Kerrigan with their hands in the dirt on every snap like they did in college and lets get after the QB. No one bothers to run the rock anymore but us.

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Postby Irn-Bru » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:32 pm

+ RGIII. I still think he's the real deal and will be a point of pride for us for years to come.

- Our secondary. We have some prospects but nothing solid, and the few decent starters we have are aging. (Amerson is the lone exception.)
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Postby StorminMormon86 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:27 am

riggofan wrote:+ RGIII/Cousins. I think we're set at QB for the foreseeable future.
- I'm worried the defense is too much of a mess to be fixed in the foreseeable future.

Yeah, this.

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Postby crazyhorse1 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:01 pm

StorminMormon86 wrote:
riggofan wrote:+ RGIII/Cousins. I think we're set at QB for the foreseeable future.
- I'm worried the defense is too much of a mess to be fixed in the foreseeable future.

Yeah, this.


I don't know what's wrong with the defense. It looks OK on paper, but on the field it looks like one uncontested pass after the other is completed and assignment after assignment or tackle is missed against the run. Why? Players much worse than they're supposed to be or absolutely horrible defensive schemes and coaching, or maybe both? If in charge, I would fire the DC, maybe now. Luckily, Phillip Thomas will be back next year and if we shift back to 4-3 we're set at linebacker. It appears that shifting to the 3-4 was a grave mistake. We're getting no pressure from the DL now, nor are we tough against the run. A new DC could shuffle and fix, perhaps, enough to give us an average defense.

Robert, Alfred, Garcon. Reed, Williams are truly formidable. We've really got to work on the OL or Robert will never develop, so that's a top priority. Hankerson might develop. In my opinion, we should draft for offensive linemen and hire a new DC to shift up back to a 4-3. If we can buy or steal on top WR let's do it. Special teams need an overhaul.

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Postby riggofan » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:12 pm

crazyhorse1 wrote:I don't know what's wrong with the defense. It looks OK on paper...


Does it really, though? Serious question. Whatever Haslett's shortcomings are, my impression is that we still have too many "average at best" type players on defense and safety is still a big problem.

Some of you guys seem very knowledgeable about how well individual defensive players have been playing. Any comment?

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Postby skinsfan#33 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:52 pm

brad7686 wrote:We have a lot of good, young players on offense.

We are not great in the trenches on either side of the ball


+ We have enough talent to win

- We have poor enough at the Spaecial teams coach and the Defensive coordinator to keep that talent from winning.
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Postby StorminMormon86 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:23 pm

riggofan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:I don't know what's wrong with the defense. It looks OK on paper...


Does it really, though? Serious question. Whatever Haslett's shortcomings are, my impression is that we still have too many "average at best" type players on defense and safety is still a big problem.

Some of you guys seem very knowledgeable about how well individual defensive players have been playing. Any comment?

Kerrigan, Orakpo, Hall, Bowen, and Cofield are definitely above average players, IMO. You could even make the argument for Riley and Merriweather, too. We all know Fletcher is past his prime, but on paper I agree that we should be much better.

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Postby Deadskins » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:52 pm

StorminMormon86 wrote:Kerrigan, Orakpo, Hall, Bowen, and Cofield are definitely above average players, IMO. You could even make the argument for Riley and Merriweather, too.

You could even add Amerson to that list. He's gonna be a star one day.
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