Gano Cut - Cundiff Signed/Cut - Kai Forbath Signed

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Postby Red_One43 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:00 pm

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chiefhog44 wrote:I ask this again. Why replace a crap kicker with a crap kicker. They both suck. There has GOT to be a human being in this world that can kick better than these two idiots.



Here he is:

This guy looked awesome for TBin the preseason

Kai Forbath, K: With Connor Barth receiving a new contract, there was little chance the UCLA rookie would make the squad. The rookie, however, will likely find a job, since he nailed all 5 exhibition FG attempts, including a 55 yarder.


Problem is he was at the bottom of the preseason in Touchbacks. Cundif can kick off through the end zone, but can't make 50 yarders. This kid, Forbath, can't easily make 50 yarders, but can barely get kick-offs to the end zone. Clearly Shanny prioritizes the touchbacks, but one more game like this for Cundif leaves only one option, Return to Gano or explore keeping two kickers, one that can make FGs, Forbath and one that can make Touchbacks, Cundif.


Ever since seeing him in the TB preseason game, I thougt Forbath was the kicker we needed to get, but I never thought that he would be this good. 10 - 10 with most FGs being over 40 yards!

I feel that his KO's have been better than expected which means room for more improvement.

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Postby tribeofjudah » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:03 am

Anyone talk about this yet:

Kai wears 2 different size shoes. 13 on left foot and 10 on right foot (something like that)...not sure of size.

His right kicking foot is a TIGHT fit........works for him. He has to put a shoe horn into it to stretch it out.

What ever work........KICKER extraordinaire.....!!!

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Postby jr_uscg » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:12 am

They just asked him on CSN, he wears a 10.5 and a 8.5 on the other. He said its a little uncomfortable. If the shoe fits wear it,,,
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Postby DarthMonk » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:50 am

For what it's worth, the Sporting News currently ranks Graham Gano #1 over all among kickers. The sample size is still small but in addition to being good on FGs his kickoffs have produced touchbacks 14 of 15 times helping make average field position for opponents 19.7 yards from the goal line.

Cundiff is a 20th. So far, we are 25th with Potter/Forbath.

We are 8 of 13 on touchbacks and covered the others well (19.5).

Again, small sample size.
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Postby DarthMonk » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:54 pm

It's week 11.

Carolina does not ask Gano to attempt directional kicks toward the pylon. Only Prater of Denver (Mile High, prolific offense) has more touchbacks.

Gano's 14 of 15. He's missed one from 40+ and is 5 of 5 from 50+ (NFL best) including last week's game winner at 49R.

He's the only qualifying kicker in the league with opponents' average start inside their own 20, i.e., NFL best.

He's having a Pro Bowl/All Pro year.

No blocks yet.
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Postby SkinsJock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:13 pm

Good for Gano - I hope he has a great NFL career - I always did

who cares?

The only kicker that really matters is the one that's kicking for us …

the only players that really matter are the ones that are wearing B&G

some here think that because a player is playing well for another franchise, we'd be a 'better team' with that player here - JUST AMAZING!!
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Postby DarthMonk » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:31 pm

SkinsJock wrote:Good for Gano - I hope he has a great NFL career - I always did

who cares?

The only kicker that really matters is the one that's kicking for us …

the only players that really matter are the ones that are wearing B&G

some here think that because a player is playing well for another franchise, we'd be a 'better team' with that player here - JUST AMAZING!!


I care. Letting him go was a mistake and it's more evidence of bad judgement by the staff.
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Postby SkinsJock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:46 pm

what is this? - oh I get it …

there are a bunch of players we should not have traded because they went elsewhere and played better than they did here …

and then

there are a bunch of players we brought in that did not play as well here as they did elsewhere ….

and then

the coaches changed the defensive scheme and the offense and we all know that we would have been much better off if they had not done that …

give me a freaking break - you're probably into game shows and play fantasy football as well …

get a life :lol:
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Postby SkinsJock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:50 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:Good for Gano - I hope he has a great NFL career - I always did

who cares?

The only kicker that really matters is the one that's kicking for us …


I care. Letting him go was a mistake and it's more evidence of bad judgement by the staff.


this staff has done a good job - they've forgotten more about the NFL than you and I will EVER know :lol:
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Postby Irn-Bru » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:30 pm

SkinsJock wrote:what is this? - oh I get it …

there are a bunch of players we should not have traded because they went elsewhere and played better than they did here …


I hear you, but Gano was one player where a lot of board members (myself included) felt it was a mistake at the time and said so. Normally when we let a guy go and he shines somewhere else, most of us scratch our heads. But this case was different.

Oh well. No use crying over what happened. Maybe one day we'll be permitted to leave special teams limbo.
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Postby SkinsJock » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:41 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:there are a bunch of players we should not have traded …. it happens all the time …

Gano was one player where a lot of board members (myself included) felt it was a mistake at the time and said so.
Normally when we let a guy go and he shines somewhere else, most of us scratch our heads. But this case was different.

Oh well. No use crying over what happened. Maybe one day we'll be permitted to leave special teams limbo.


I also liked Gano, and especially how 'big' a leg he has - that boy is a really good kicker

Danny Smith was recognized as a really good special teams coordinator by his peers …
he probably was not as much of a 'yes man' as Mike likes on his staff :-"
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Postby DarthMonk » Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:32 pm

SkinsJock wrote:give me a freaking break - you're probably into game shows and play fantasy football as well …

get a life :lol:

I have a life. I watch Family Feud with my 8-year old. I am a proud champion of THNFF.

Ironic the "get a life" comment being posted by someone with over 12,000 posts.

Peace out, maibrutha.
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Postby Countertrey » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:04 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:give me a freaking break - you're probably into game shows and play fantasy football as well …

get a life :lol:

I have a life. I watch Family Feud with my 8-year old. I am a proud champion of THNFF.

Ironic the "get a life" comment being posted by someone with over 12,000 posts.

Peace out, maibrutha.

I get your point... however, I was baffled by the Gano deal last year as well... but I'm not going to start patting myself on the back over my incredible 20-20 hindsight... doing that is just intellectually dishonest. That is SJ's point. If we look, we can find plenty of cases where we objected to the release of a player... and were wrong. Somehow, I just don't see many posts like that here...
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Postby DarthMonk » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:59 am

I understand. How's this? i thought we would have a winning record this year. Barring a miracle, I was flat out wrong.

I suppose I was patting myself on the back a hair. But honestly it was more about making sure some other people realized how wrong they were. Gamo was not horrible and the blocks were not on him. He was a good kicker and we should not have doubted him the way we did as a group.
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Re: Gano Cut - Cundiff Signed/Cut - Kai Forbath Signed

Postby SkinsJock » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:10 pm

[-X I still am a Gano fan and did not want to see him leave here
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