A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by Kilmer72 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:33 pm
SkinsJock wrote:boy there's a lot of "according to this guy or that guy.... " going on around here
most of us know that most of those "according to .. " reports we've seen lately are only based on past history here and are a real stretch of the actual truth
almost anything and everything illogical "fits" the profile that is the Redskins under Dan Snyder so why not create it/report it and not give the true source
the only thing you can believe is that Dan Snyder does not have a clue and he will constantly be involved to the detriment of the play on the field
Dan Snyder did support Mike and the FO's decision to make the trade, no doubt - because it was the best deal for the Redskins, not because it was a 'good marketing idea'
I agree SkinsJock. Unfortunately if enough people tell you you have a zit on your forehead you might want to check.
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:22 pm
no need if you know the source is as anti Redskins as our DC media
Nobody really expects the Redskins to do well and this is primarily due to the way the franchise is managed.
It's not the players or the coaches fault. It's time to clean house & change the losing culture here
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by UK Skins Fan » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:45 pm
SkinsJock wrote:no need if you know the source is as anti Redskins as our DC media
Right now, the DC media is no more "anti Redskins" than the team's own fanbase!
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:46 pm
That's another fact ... 
Nobody really expects the Redskins to do well and this is primarily due to the way the franchise is managed.
It's not the players or the coaches fault. It's time to clean house & change the losing culture here
Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by Smithian » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:55 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mi ... ml?hpid=z2
Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the postgame lockerroom.
Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the postgame lockerroom.
"I said when he retired that Joe Gibbs was the best coach I'd ever faced." - Bill Parcells
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:21 pm
another constructive, knee jerk reaction
plain and simple - why? what difference does it make?
plain and simple - why? what difference does it make?
Nobody really expects the Redskins to do well and this is primarily due to the way the franchise is managed.
It's not the players or the coaches fault. It's time to clean house & change the losing culture here
Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by Smithian » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:51 pm
Surely you jest.SkinsJock wrote:another constructive, knee jerk reaction
plain and simple - why? what difference does it make?
3-13.
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:17 pm
Smithian wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mike-shanahan-hasnt-solved-washington-redskins-problems-during-uneven-tenure/2013/12/28/7df92930-6fd5-11e3-a523-fe73f0ff6b8d_story.html?hpid=z2
Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the postgame lockerroom.
Not even Dan Snyder who is an idiot would stoop that low - that is a classless thing to do and will not happen
we shall see who has a better understanding of these things
Nobody really expects the Redskins to do well and this is primarily due to the way the franchise is managed.
It's not the players or the coaches fault. It's time to clean house & change the losing culture here
Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by Smithian » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:52 pm
If I was a betting man I would put big money on Shanahan being gone tomorrow.SkinsJock wrote:Smithian wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mike-shanahan-hasnt-solved-washington-redskins-problems-during-uneven-tenure/2013/12/28/7df92930-6fd5-11e3-a523-fe73f0ff6b8d_story.html?hpid=z2
Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the postgame lockerroom.
Not even Dan Snyder who is an idiot would stoop that low - that is a classless thing to do and will not happen
we shall see who has a better understanding of these things
"I said when he retired that Joe Gibbs was the best coach I'd ever faced." - Bill Parcells
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:18 pm
Smithian wrote:If I was a betting man I would put big money on Shanahan being gone tomorrow.SkinsJock wrote:Smithian wrote:Fire Shanahan before he makes it to the post game locker room.
Not even Dan Snyder would stoop that low - that is a classless thing to do and will not happen
we shall see who has a better understanding of these things
Oh No! - you already insisted he should be fired before then ... WRONG! you can't have it both ways
Mike is most likely fired soon ... but not today!
Nobody really expects the Redskins to do well and this is primarily due to the way the franchise is managed.
It's not the players or the coaches fault. It's time to clean house & change the losing culture here
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by SkinsJock » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:21 pm
I'm kind of glad that we might be done with Mike ...
my only concern is who will be responsible for bringing in the next HC ...
IF Mike is gone we need a real GM ...
my only concern is who will be responsible for bringing in the next HC ...
IF Mike is gone we need a real GM ...
Nobody really expects the Redskins to do well and this is primarily due to the way the franchise is managed.
It's not the players or the coaches fault. It's time to clean house & change the losing culture here
Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by EA7649 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:52 am
SkinsJock wrote:I'm kind of glad that we might be done with Mike ...
my only concern is who will be responsible for bringing in the next HC ...
IF Mike is gone we need a real GM ...
Is Bruce Allen reported to be on the out as well?
Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by Neo » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:14 am
SkinsJock wrote:I'm kind of glad that we might be done with Mike ...
my only concern is who will be responsible for bringing in the next HC ...
IF Mike is gone we need a real GM ...
Brian Mitchel was talking about that on the Post Game Live. Hopefully Snyder watches it and takes note.
Like many of us have been saying, Mitchel thinks Bruce Allen should be VP of football operations (handling the financial matters). Then a football-minded GM who knows how to find talent in players and coaches to condition those players.
Literally praying it goes this way.
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by StorminMormon86 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:24 am
I don't think Allen is in the hot seat at all. We need a real GM.
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Re: A Summary of how I think the Redskin mess unfolded
by SkinsJock » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:25 am
EA7649 wrote:Is Bruce Allen reported to be out as well?
No - Bruce should be kept because he's done well for the franchise with the financial side ...
Mike & Bruce were not great as personnel guys - they did put together a good FO including a much improved scouting dept.
However, we don't have a strong GM who would be better at leading a search for a new HC plus other personnel (coaches and players)
Mike has 'controlled' things here - he has helped in many ways but certainly not as far as success on the field is concerned ...
IMO - letting Mike go is good thing - hopefully the restructuring is handled by NFL guys and not by Dan Snyder
Nobody really expects the Redskins to do well and this is primarily due to the way the franchise is managed.
It's not the players or the coaches fault. It's time to clean house & change the losing culture here