Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby riggofan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:18 am

Smithian wrote:It was real Mike, last year was fun, but you bombed worse than Zorn in the end.


I don't care what anybody says and I don't care what the record books say, anybody who believes that Zorn had a better tenure here than Shanahan is loony. The Zorn "era" was the biggest waste since Steve Spurrier.

I sincerely believe we're going to see that what Shanahan did here was tear our old crappy house down, level it and take the trash out. He didn't build us the shiny new mcmansion, but he cleared the way for the next guy to do it. The question to me is will Dan Snyder take advantage of that and hire the right guy to move us forward.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby AldersonSkinsFan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:21 am

I like the move to fire Shanahan. Ive been a fan since 96 and through all of the losing seasons this season has been the worst imo.

At the same time I do think Snyder needs to step back from star players and give his coach the respect any head coach deserves.

We got the talent to win next season. RG3, Morris, Garcon, Reed on offense and the tag team of Orakpo and Kerrigan on defense. We need to get some DBs and maybe another WR.

One coach whos name I heard today that I like..... Jay Gruden from Cincy.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Kilmer72 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:23 am

riggofan wrote:
Smithian wrote:It was real Mike, last year was fun, but you bombed worse than Zorn in the end.


I don't care what anybody says and I don't care what the record books say, anybody who believes that Zorn had a better tenure here than Shanahan is loony. The Zorn "era" was the biggest waste since Steve Spurrier.

I sincerely believe we're going to see that what Shanahan did here was tear our old crappy house down, level it and take the trash out. He didn't build us the shiny new mcmansion, but he cleared the way for the next guy to do it. The question to me is will Dan Snyder take advantage of that and hire the right guy to move us forward.


Yep. I'm fairly certain that Bruce will know what to do.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby riggofan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:45 am

AldersonSkinsFan wrote:One coach whos name I heard today that I like..... Jay Gruden from Cincy.


Me too, man! I think he would be a really good choice. Guess we will see...
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby UK Skins Fan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:50 am

It seems like today is probably the right day to acknowledge the positives of the Shanahan era. He definitely was handed a dreadful roster that also left us in a poor position against the cap. He leaves us with a weak roster, which has some promise in some key positions, and in a much better cap position. For that, I say thanks.

What Mike was nowhere close to achieving was the next step - building a consistently competitive team. The 2 years of cap crap did not help that at all, but his own poor personnel decisions also contributed to the lack of development. Right now, we can only pray that the right structures and the right people are put in place to deliver what we all want - a team to be proud of, year in and year out.

I think the next coach inherits a much better situation than Mike did - I hope they make the most of it.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby riggofan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:55 am

I was just looking at a poll on WashPost today. Who should be the next coach?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... e-redskins

Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden are the top picks. lol. It just shows you how unimaginative most fans are. Obviously the two biggest names everybody has heard of. Why in the world is Bill Cowher even on these lists anymore? Why not George Freaking Seifert while we're at it?

To be fair, the next highest votes looked pretty good to me: Russ Grimm (gotta love Redskins' loyalty!), Lovie Smith, Other and Jay Gruden. Bill O'Brien isn't on the list, so maybe he is the "other" people are voting for.

I think Lovie Smith is a great coach, but he kind of got steamrolled in Chicago. I'd have some concerns about him dealing with Snyder and the local media. I love Russ Grimm, but honestly I wouldn't wish this job on him.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby riggofan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:05 pm

UK Skins Fan wrote:What Mike was nowhere close to achieving was the next step - building a consistently competitive team. The 2 years of cap crap did not help that at all, but his own poor personnel decisions also contributed to the lack of development. Right now, we can only pray that the right structures and the right people are put in place to deliver what we all want - a team to be proud of, year in and year out.

I think the next coach inherits a much better situation than Mike did - I hope they make the most of it.


Let's be fair, "The 2 years of cap crap did not help that at all" is putting it pretty mildly. The cap penalty was a huge body blow, and if people don't understand that I'd encourage everybody to look at what happened. I hate to keep using the house comparison, but it was literally like if you just cleared your lot and the bank pulled the financing to build your new house the day before you were supposed to start. All of your plans, etc; are out the window, do the best with what you have in your checking account.

Your point still stands though that Mike definitely didn't build a consistently competitive team. That's going to have to be on the next guy.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Chris Luva Luva » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:06 pm

There's nothing to be happy about it, the owner is still the same. What's the definition of insanity?
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby UK Skins Fan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:11 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:There's nothing to be happy about it, the owner is still the same. What's the definition of insanity?

Riding a bike without a saddle?
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby UK Skins Fan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:12 pm

riggofan wrote:Let's be fair, "The 2 years of cap crap did not help that at all" is putting it pretty mildly.

I'm English - we specialise in "putting things mildly" ;-)
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Chris Luva Luva » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:15 pm

UK Skins Fan wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:There's nothing to be happy about it, the owner is still the same. What's the definition of insanity?

Riding a bike without a saddle?


lol.

...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results... And thus, here we are again.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby spudstr04 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:17 pm

Mike & Kyle Shanahan, ST coach Keith Burns, & DC Jim Haslett are all fired...don't know about others....
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby chiefhog44 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:18 pm

UK Skins Fan wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:There's nothing to be happy about it, the owner is still the same. What's the definition of insanity?

Riding a bike without a saddle?


head butting a wall with a helmet on?
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby riggofan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:19 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:There's nothing to be happy about it, the owner is still the same. What's the definition of insanity?

Riding a bike without a saddle?


lol.

...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results... And thus, here we are again.


So we're going to hire Mike Shanahan and his entire coaching staff again?
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby UK Skins Fan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:46 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:There's nothing to be happy about it, the owner is still the same. What's the definition of insanity?

Riding a bike without a saddle?


lol.

...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results... And thus, here we are again.

Yeah, but I prefer my definition ;-)

Jetting off to throw millions of dollars at Bill Cowher would certainly fit the "same thing over and over again" definition, so let's hope that isn't on the agenda.

I'm hopeful, but not expectant, that the Redskins will get this right, this time. My faith isn't blind though, so I'm half expecting Snyder to order Bruce to dig up Bill Walsh's remains.
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