Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby UK Skins Fan » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:04 pm

hanburgerheel wrote:I'm not sure how many of you are measuring the success of Defensive Coordinators. Jim Haslett's defenses are historically abysmal. And, his record is unchanged after his tenure at Washington. Some of you people are strangely optimistic when it comes to results that really matter! "Your kidneys are no longer functioning and you'll be on dialysis until we get a donor. But, our chief administrator was a podiatrist and says your toenails are spectacular!"

That chief administrator sounds like a very camp fellow.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby grampi » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:15 pm

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grampi wrote:DS needs to get out the ol' checkbook and bring Cower in as the new HC...

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You're kidding, right? Cower would be an awesome HC for the Skins...

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby riggofan » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:35 pm

grampi wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
grampi wrote:DS needs to get out the ol' checkbook and bring Cower in as the new HC...

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You're kidding, right? Cower would be an awesome HC for the Skins...


I don't know. Cowher has only been out of coaching for seven years. I'd prefer Snyder find somebody who has spent at least a solid decade not coaching and (if possible) has even less to prove.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby gibbsfan » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:16 pm

ACW wrote:
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gibbsfan wrote:Writing is on the wall ...now hire a gm and let him select the coach..


Uh, we have a GM.
Make Allen President and hire a GM.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby SkinsJock » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:23 pm

fortunately - it looks pretty clear to me that Dan Snyder is continuing to stay away from making player and coaching decisions and leaving it in the appropriate hands ...

The decisions on who really needed to be let go and those coaches that might be useful in the future were IMO made by Bruce and the FO - after Dan and Mike met
Robert Griffin will become a really good QB he's talented and smart

hopefully Kirk Cousins can make things happen till RG3 is ready to play again

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby UK Skins Fan » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:33 pm

grampi wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
grampi wrote:DS needs to get out the ol' checkbook and bring Cower in as the new HC...

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You're kidding, right? Cower would be an awesome HC for the Skins...

Not kidding at all. Cowher WAS a great coach. In Pittsburgh. Surrounded by talent. Many years ago.

Time to get somebody in whose best days are in the future, preferrably in DC.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby riggofan » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:41 pm

UK Skins Fan wrote:Not kidding at all. Cowher WAS a great coach. In Pittsburgh. Surrounded by talent. Many years ago.

Time to get somebody in whose best days are in the future, preferrably in DC.


For real!!! Why does everybody always immediately want these old guys whose best days are behind them? No disrespect intended to Bill Cowher who is undoubtedly a great coach. Or Joe Gibbs or even Mike Shanahan for that matter. But you see what happens with these guys. They get back in to the actual grind of coaching and all the accompanying BS and sooner or later they say, "What do I need this for? I have millions of dollars. I've already won a Super Bowl or two or three. I'm going to be in the Hall of Fame. What do I have to prove? I don't need this. Keep your money, Dan. I'm going back to spend time on the golf course and to enjoy my grandchildren."

We don't need Bill Cowher. We need a guy who wants to be the NEXT Bill Cowher. We need new ideas, new energy and real passion to do all of the hard stuff its going to take to build a winner in Washington. Just showing up here in DC with a super bowl on your resume isn't going to be enough.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Kilmer72 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:47 pm

riggofan wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:Not kidding at all. Cowher WAS a great coach. In Pittsburgh. Surrounded by talent. Many years ago.

Time to get somebody in whose best days are in the future, preferrably in DC.


For real!!! Why does everybody always immediately want these old guys whose best days are behind them? No disrespect intended to Bill Cowher who is undoubtedly a great coach. Or Joe Gibbs or even Mike Shanahan for that matter. But you see what happens with these guys. They get back in to the actual grind of coaching and all the accompanying BS and sooner or later they say, "What do I need this for? I have millions of dollars. I've already won a Super Bowl or two or three. I'm going to be in the Hall of Fame. What do I have to prove? I don't need this. Keep your money, Dan. I'm going back to spend time on the golf course and to enjoy my grandchildren."

We don't need Bill Cowher. We need a guy who wants to be the NEXT Bill Cowher. We need new ideas, new energy and real passion to do all of the hard stuff its going to take to build a winner in Washington. Just showing up here in DC with a super bowl on your resume isn't going to be enough.


If these old has beens have not been empowered with final say it could be a different story. We don't know yet. Look what Dick Vermeil did in his come back. It can be done.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby SkinsJock » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:12 pm

we are not getting an old Dick Vermeil type HC - I could care less what he did - that was not here and the situations are incredibly different

this FO is going to bring in a HC that will manage the on the field decisions and then help him assemble a bunch of assistants to get the job done

we are not bringing in some rah rah guy like the eagles did when they brought in Vermeil - they got lucky - we are not doing anything that depends on luck ...

this franchise is starting a new direction with Bruce Allen and the FO being given a chance to show that they can continue to build this franchise ...

I'm looking forward to watching this happen with the incredible RG3 at the helm
Robert Griffin will become a really good QB he's talented and smart

hopefully Kirk Cousins can make things happen till RG3 is ready to play again

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Countertrey » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:19 pm

SkinsJock wrote:we are not getting an old Dick Vermeil type HC - I could care less what he did - that was not here and the situations are incredibly different

this FO is going to bring in a HC that will manage the on the field decisions and then help him assemble a bunch of assistants to get the job done

we are not bringing in some rah rah guy like the eagles did when they brought in Vermeil - they got lucky - we are not doing anything that depends on luck ...

this franchise is starting a new direction with Bruce Allen and the FO being given a chance to show that they can continue to build this franchise ...

I'm looking forward to watching this happen with the incredible RG3 at the helm
Not that it invalidates your point... but Vermeil only ALMOST got Philly to the promised land... It was St Louis that really got lucky...
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Kilmer72 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:22 pm

That was the point I was making. Just trying to show it can be done. Especially after a long hiatus.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby SkinsJock » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:32 pm

OK - I know what Vermeil did, I just don't consider Dick Vermeil or coaches like him (Pete Carroll) as viable candidates here

we need a good manager and someone that can handle working in a very difficult environment ...

I like the results that happened on his watch but that rah rah stuff ain't going to cut it here

it's really not a worry - our FO guys are not bringing in that type of HC
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Countertrey » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:38 pm

Kilmer72 wrote:That was the point I was making. Just trying to show it can be done. Especially after a long hiatus.
Sooooo... it DOES dispute his point. Sometimes, I scare myself.
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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Kilmer72 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:41 pm

SkinsJock wrote:OK - I know what Vermeil did, I just don't consider Dick Vermeil or coaches like him (Pete Carroll) as viable candidates here

we need a good manager and someone that can handle working in a very difficult environment ...

I like the results that happened on his watch but that rah rah stuff ain't going to cut it here

it's really not a worry - our FO guys are not bringing in that type of HC


Well, if you want to call it rah rah ok then. How about this.... I wouldn't mind a motivator for a coach. Someone that will give them a swift kick in the derriere if needed. Pump up those players when things are looking a little sour.

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Re: Mike Shanahan Fired Officially

Postby Kilmer72 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:43 pm

Countertrey wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:That was the point I was making. Just trying to show it can be done. Especially after a long hiatus.
Sooooo... it DOES dispute his point. Sometimes, I scare myself.



Maybe not. The point may change tomorrow. You know how it goes.

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