Pass/Run...Eh, it's all the same?

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Pass/Run...Eh, it's all the same?

Postby skinz74 » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:25 am

"When you run and don't go very far, you wish you'd passed," Spurrier said. "Pass and don't go anywhere, wish you'd pass." Posted at Washingtonpost. I think that about sums it up. The skins rushed for a season high of 161 yards on 26 carries, and had their first 100 yard rushing game from an individual. But that just wasn't enough for SOS. He claims that the scheme is to balance the pass and the run. But when you have 42 passes and 26 rushes...one would think that you were WAY behind trying to play catch up. We had the lead. So, obviously he's not satisfied with just winning the game. He wants big numbers, just like when he was at U of F. Our beloved skins our no longer on the warpath for the remainder of the season...and the smoke signals are coming from our camp say SOS...HELP. ;furious;

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Postby BossHog » Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:01 am

Even Jansen, the team captain, questioned SOS' play calling this week.

Not good.

Hasselbeck said it's the most passes (42) he's ever thrown in a game. Good game plan for a rookie QB. And it's certainly understandable since we were only averaging 7+ yards per carry.

I said last week that Hass starting might be good because it would mean we would run more and the o-line would get to do some smashing for once and like it. The o-line kept up their part of the deal. Too bad coach decided that passing was fine.
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Postby Texas Hog » Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:15 am

Totally bone-headed on SOS' part. He's losing his players respect and this fan's. If I didn't want to believe better, I'd think he's pretty much just a dumb ass.
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Postby skinz74 » Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:07 am

Thomas and Jansen were seen pleading with SOS to run the ball. Against the 26th ranked run defense, Trung could have possible put up 150, 200 yards at his rate. Or at least at a combined effort of Rock and Trung, we could have ground out the clock and the yardarge. Sad. -drinking

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Postby NC43Hog » Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:42 am

Lets not forget time of possession. We run effectively - we control the clock - DM doesn't get as many opportunities to expoit our weak@*# defense - we win. Spurrier needs to learn from all the coaches in the NFL (past and present) - the ones who have succeeded and the ones who have failed - see any patterns Steve. Keep the ball out of your opponents hands you will more than likely win the game.

I am SOOOOOO tired of waiting til next year.

Please hire a good GM DS and lets start steering this ship in the right direction.

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Postby Texas Hog » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:09 pm

I didn't get to see the game, but it sounds to me like this one, as most have been, is on SOS. That doesn't make me feel real good about next year, assuming he's going to be back. He hasn't learned that you set up the pass with running the ball in this league...no other way will work.

I'm not sure even hiring a good GM will help us with SOS.
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Postby BossHog » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:36 pm

Hiring a real GM would make EVERYONE accountable... that's how it would help.

It's difficult with SOS already under contract for 5 years, but that's just part and parcel of not having a 'voice of reason' there to prevent such stupid mistakes from happening. The offensive genius can't even come up with a game plan that works right now, let alone execute one.

Hiring a GM would also (hopefully) help this team think longer term and not always look for a quick fix.

A real GM could effectively remove ALL responsibility for Spurrier and place him in the unenviable position of having to quit due to shame, rather than fire him and have to pay him for putting this franchise on hold for the last 2 years. Spurrier continues to make the same mistakes over and over and over again. He doesn't appear to have learned anything except that he's not as smart as he thinks he was. IMO, he just doesn't have what it takes to be a coach in this league any more than he had the ability to be a QB in the league.

The media has known for a while, the fans are catching on, and the players certainly seem to be wising up to the fact. The only 2 people on earth that don't seem to see it, or refuse to admit it, are DS and My Cousin Vinny.
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Postby Scooter » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:48 pm

I'll be available for the GM spot! And any sock-puppet could do as well as Vinny's done. Also - our Defense lacks talent at key areas... linebacker to start.
A GM would really help, but players still have to make plays. Maybe even a regular old tackle!

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Postby BossHog » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:57 pm

Players have to make plays... no doubt about it.

But they have no more accountability than the coach does. Nothing happens to the players when they don't do their jobs, nothing happens to the coaches when they don't do their job and nothing happens to the front office when they don't do their jobs.

Gee, I wonder why nothing's changing.

Brother Scooter, you love this team as much as I do. But the excuse making and the rationalizing by the Redskin faithful has to stop. Continuing to do so makes us no better than the FO that we admonish. This team is in bad shape and it seems that we are going in the wrong direction to boot.
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Postby redskincity » Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:07 pm

Whats up with throwing on 3rd and 1 with Rock on the side and Trung running his azz off :hmm:
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Postby BossHog » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:20 pm

Just par for the course ain't it RScity?

I guess we were playing the 'percentages'.
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Postby redskincity » Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:15 pm

:?: :?: :?: :hmm:
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Postby hailskins666 » Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:33 pm

i think spurrier is thinking pass even though hes trying to tell himself run. there are other coaches in the league who would give their left arm for a rush avg like trung had sunday.... and would use it in their favor. this is deeper than the skins vs other teams at this point, it's steve vs the nfl, gotta make sure everyone knows the fun n gun is for real....yea, right
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Postby skins75 » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:37 am

On the topic of GM...I think that even if DS wants to bring in a GM next year he is going to have a hard time finding a top caliber guy such as McKay to come here. Hell McKay is finally getting away from Dumb and Dumber in Tampa. Why the heck would he come here and deal with DS.

BTW: Didnt I hear that DS is looking to sign an extension on VC's contract?

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Postby skinsfaninroanoke » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:44 am

skins75 wrote:BTW: Didnt I hear that DS is looking to sign an extension on VC's contract?


That is what I heard and I just wanted to break down and cry when I heard it.

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