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psummersjr
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:56 pm    Post subject: The Tuck Rule... Reply with quote

The only reason I'm enduring all this pain at the hands of Patriot fans is b/c of that damned tuck rule Evil or Very Mad. It's been explained to me before but is there anyone out there who could provide a decent explanation here?
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skinsfaninroanoke
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any forward motion by a QB's arm is considered the beginning of a forward pass even if he tries to stop his arm motion and tuck the ball... if he loses it during the forward motion or immediately after it, it won't be a fumble or intentional grounding. It will simply be ruled as a forward pass that is incomplete.

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psummersjr
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that was as clear as it gets... thanks!

Aren't most people against it (Tom Brady excepted, of course)?
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aren't most people against it (Tom Brady excepted, of course)?
that depends on who's in the situation, if it were ramsey id say yea, tuck rule. but if it were mcnabb or carter, i'd say FUMBLE... Laughing
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hailskins666 wrote:
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Aren't most people against it (Tom Brady excepted, of course)?
that depends on who's in the situation, if it were ramsey id say yea, tuck rule. but if it were mcnabb or carter, i'd say FUMBLE... Laughing


then we all pile on top of the poor b@st@rds! Very Happy .... Redskins Ball!
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skinsfaninroanoke
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogpile on the rabbit, dogpile on the rabbit, dogpile on the...

sorry - Bugs Bunny moment there Smile
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welch
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Key thing is the difference between QB's with a quick release, and those with a long wind-up.

Sonny Jurgenson, who is not just a great broadcaster, but was the best passer in the NFL from 1960 until he retired in the mid-70's, had the quickest release anyone has seen. Joe Namth, underneath all the "Broadway Joe", glamour, fur coats and all, made his living with a quick release. Dan Marino had it. Brady has it. Aikman did not. The amazing Jeff George has it...without any other qualities that make an NFL QB, unfortunately.

So...in a split-second judgement, I'd assume that Brady could get his arm moving forward. Hence, pass.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

welch wrote:
Key thing is the difference between QB's with a quick release, and those with a long wind-up.

Sonny Jurgenson, who is not just a great broadcaster, but was the best passer in the NFL from 1960 until he retired in the mid-70's, had the quickest release anyone has seen. Joe Namth, underneath all the "Broadway Joe", glamour, fur coats and all, made his living with a quick release. Dan Marino had it. Brady has it. Aikman did not. The amazing Jeff George has it...without any other qualities that make an NFL QB, unfortunately.

So...in a split-second judgement, I'd assume that Brady could get his arm moving forward. Hence, pass.


Good post Welch. And man I loved to watch Sonny play - getting off thread here for a second - he could run a 2 minute drill to perfection.
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinsfaninroanoke wrote:
Any forward motion by a QB's arm is considered the beginning of a forward pass even if he tries to stop his arm motion and tuck the ball... if he loses it during the forward motion or immediately after it, it won't be a fumble or intentional grounding. It will simply be ruled as a forward pass that is incomplete.

Did that help ya? Smile


how long does 'immediately' last? can i pump the ball, and the run around for 5 or 7 seconds not having to worry abhout fumbling? seems a bit arbitrary to me (and raiders fans).
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the word immediately means that once the motion is stopped either by just stopping the movement or tucking the ball it is free game again
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