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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:25 pm    Post subject: Mel Kiper's Mock 1st Round Reply with quote

The following is from ESPN insider. I really think he's off on a number of picks, but it is interesting to see how an "expert" sees the 1st round going.

Winslow to the Skins? Shocked I just don't see the Redskins having the luxury to use a top 5 pick on a TE...



1. San Diego Chargers: Eli Manning, QB, Ole Miss
Drew Brees has not proven himself as a player who will ultimately be a starter in the NFL, and while the Chargers also have needs at OT, WR, DT and LB, passing up a blue-chip quarterback like Manning is tough to do, especially considering they passed on Michael Vick a couple years ago.


2. Oakland Raiders: *Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
The Raiders certainly could use a quarterback, with Rich Gannon getting up there in age, but Fitzgerald would be a good complement to the big, athletic Jerry Porter at wideout. There is also need at DL and S, but Fitzgerald has all the skills you look for in a receiver.

3. Arizona Cardinals: *Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio
Josh McCown is an adequate QB, but Roethlisberger will give new coach Dennis Green a potential star. DL is also a need area, but no linemen are worthy of the No. 3 pick, so the Cardinals would do well to upgrade the most important position on the field.

4. New York Giants: Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
Getting a player like Gallery -- the prototype left tackle -- would be a huge help to QB Kerry Collins, who was beaten up big-time this season. The Giants also need help along the DL and at S, but Gallery will step in immediately and fill a big hole.

5. Washington Redskins: *Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami-Fla.
The TE position is always important in a Joe Gibbs offense, and Winslow will give the Redskins a multi-dimensional talent at that position, one that could be utilized creatively by Gibbs and his staff. DL and RB are also need positions in Washington, but it will be hard to pass up an athlete like Winslow at this spot.


6. Detroit Lions: *Sean Taylor, S, Miami-Fla.
The Lions need to get the best impact player still on the board at either WR, RB, DE, CB or S, and Taylor looks to be that guy. Taylor is to the safety position at Miami what Ray Lewis was to the MLB spot and has tremendous toughness.

7. Atlanta Falcons: *Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
DT, OT, CB and WR are the need areas for the Falcons, and Harris wreaks havoc behind the line of scrimmage. He can cause problems for opposing QBs and was constantly triple-teamed in college.

8. Cleveland Browns: *Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State
Gamble might be a slight reach here, but his upside is tremendous, and he capped his college career with a terrific game in Ohio State's Fiesta Bowl win over Kansas State. A roll of the dice, but if he can be coached up and improve his cover skills Gamble could be an impact player down the road.

9. Jacksonville Jaguars: Roy Williams, WR, Texas
The Jags need a complement to Jimmy Smith at wideout, and a reliable No. 2 option would certainly help the development of QB Byron Leftwich. Jacksonville also has needs at CB and DE.

10. Houston Texans: *Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC
A pass-rusher is the No. 1 need in Houston, and Udeze fits the mold. Originally a DT, Udeze has developed into a terrific strong-side DE and is ideally suited to the 3-4 scheme with his rush skills and ability to hold up against the run.

11. Pittsburgh Steelers: Dunta Robinson, CB, South Carolina
The Steelers' secondary has been torched in recent years and Robinson is definitely worthy of a high pick. He is fundamentally sound and prepared to step in and become an immediate starter.

12. New York Jets: Jonathan Vilma, LB, Miami-Fla.
New York definitely needs help at WR and CB, but Vilma would give the Jets speed, athleticism and instincts to boost their LB corps.

13. Buffalo Bills: Will Smith, DE, Ohio State
A perfect fit. Smith would be the best player available at this point in the first round and fill a big-time need for the Bills, who could also use help at CB or WR.

14. Chicago Bears: *Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
Jones has size, breakaway speed and the ability to catch and block. He would be a good complement to Anthony Thomas, who is not quite the home run hitter Jones could be. The Bears might also look to upgrade at WR, DT or DB.

15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: *Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas
Andrews is a devastating run blocker who is also light on his feet and would upgrade the RT position dramatically for the Bucs. WR and TE are also areas of need in Tampa.

16. San Francisco 49ers: *Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami-Fla.
With his ability to stuff the run and also explode upfield, Wilfork is in the mold of current NFL DT Keith Traylor. Wilfork would solidify a unit that had problems all season long.

17. Cincinnati Bengals: *Randy Starks, DT, Maryland
Coach Marvin Lewis needs a big presence in the middle of the defensive front, and Starks is a guy who can make plays. He had 14½ tackles for loss last season and is very strong with great athletic ability. Starks is definitely a good fit and has tremendous potential.

18. New Orleans Saints: Will Poole, CB, USC
The Saints passed on Marcus Trufant last year and still need help in the secondary. Poole turned into a shutdown corner when he became a starter three games into the season and could turn into a special player.

19. Minnesota Vikings: D.J. Williams, OLB, Miami-Fla.
Minnesota needs some athletic ability on the outside of its defense, and former FB Williams has that. He is not as instinctive as teammate Jonathan Vilma, but with his speed and overall physical ability, Williams would give the Vikings a solid presence at OLB.

20. Miami Dolphins: J.P. Losman, QB, Tulane
With Jay Fiedler and Brian Griese not looking like the long-term answer at QB, the Dolphins could upgrade here with Losman. He has a quick release, mobility and a strong arm. Losman got beat up at Tulane thanks to a terrible supporting cast but is ideally suited to an NFL offense.

21. New England Patriots (from Baltimore): *Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon State
The Pats did not run the ball consistently this season and need a quality RB to take some pressure off Tom Brady and the short passing game. Jackson has size and can bounce it to the outside as well as being an excellent receiver out of the backfield.

22. Dallas Cowboys: Chris Perry, RB, Michigan
Troy Hambrick does not look like the answer at RB, and Perry is the kind of all-around back Cowboys coach Bill Parcells likes. Perry is multi-talented, a good short-yardage runner, has hands out of the backfield and is a very good blocker. A complete back who can be on the field every down.

23. Seattle Seahawks: Dwan Edwards, DT, Oregon State
Seattle had problems stopping the run and getting pressure on the QB, so Edwards would be a big help. He played in the shadow of some more-heralded teammates but had a heck of a career and would be a significant upgrade.

24. Denver Broncos: Ben Troupe, TE, Florida
Shannon Sharpe is near the end of the road and Troupe is a TE in the Sharpe mold. Troupe can run, catch and block and his combination of size and speed is impressive. The Broncos might also look for a WR or CB here.

25. Green Bay: *Antwan Odom, DE, Alabama
Alabama lost three starters on the DL before last season, yet Odom still managed to get eight sacks despite being the focus of opposing offenses up front. He has tremendous size and potential and would give the Packers a three-down DE who can play the run and the pass. Green Bay could also look for a QB or OLB.

26. St. Louis Rams: *DeAngelo Hall, CB, Virginia Tech
A multi-talented player, Hall has great recovery speed as a CB and could significantly upgrade the punt return game. OG and TE are also need positions for the Rams.

27. Tennessee Titans: Vernon Carey, OL, Miami-Fla.
The Titans need a versatile lineman, and Carey played both guard and both tackle positions while at Miami. He would give the Titans some much-needed flexibility along the offensive front.

28. Kansas City Chiefs: Keith Smith, CB, McNeese State
The Chiefs had all kinds of match-up problems in their playoff loss to the Colts. Smith had a great career at the Division I-AA level and looks ready to step up to the NFL level. Reminiscent of former McNeese and NFL CB Leonard Smith (no relation).

29. Philadelphia Eagles: *Reggie Williams, WR, Washington
The Eagles showed how badly they need a WR in their loss to the Panthers in the NFC championship game, and Williams is a big, fast target who would be an upgrade over any wideout currently on the roster.

30. Indianapolis Colts: Karlos Dansby, OLB, Auburn
The Colts need a complete OLB, and Dansby is just that. Speed and athleticism make blitzing off the edge his forte, and Dansby would give Indianapolis a good outside pass rusher and upgrade that area of the defense.

31. Carolina Panthers: *Michael Clayton, WR, LSU
Clayton has size and can make the difficult catch look easy. He showed his toughness by playing special teams and some at safety in college and would be a great bargain at this point in the first round. The Panthers also need LB help.

32. New England Patriots: Michael Jenkins, WR, Ohio State
The Patriots have some undersized receivers in Deion Branch, Troy Brown and David Givens, and Jenkins would give them the big target they lack. He is a complete player who will block downfield and make unselfish plays.
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice - Starks - 17th - just for those of you who don't know who he is Smile
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to this, greg jones may still be available with our number 2 pick. that could be a bonus.....
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they decide RB is that much of an issue - they may address it in FA if someone like Barlow doesn't get offered 1st round money...
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are decent TE available in Free Agency...
like Kliensasser from Minny and Kinny from the Titans..Sean Taylor is projected to be the best saftey in the NFL by year 2 or 3 ..
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say give up Bailey for two first rounders, that way we could get Kellen Winslow, and Sean Taylor. I'm still kind of high on Kevin Jones though. These mock drafts so early in the season are really stupid in my opinion. In my eyes, theres no way analysts can be accurate in their predictions until after Free Agency begins, and the Scouting Combine is finished. These mock drafts are only an "indication" of what teams will be looking for come draft day.
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man we cant lose Champ....
He'll just end up biggie another Ex-Redskin Pro Bowler. Gibbs will never let him slide out of here cus champ is a stand up dude.

Frachise tag for Champis a necessity.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be interesting to see if anyone wants to give up 2 first rounders for Champ. Detroit has been mentioned and they have the #6 pick (I think) not to mention Boss Bailey on the roster. But it's too early to figure anything out other than one of our top 5 choices will be available...
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just can't see them passing up on Taylor if he is still available. I wouldn't be suprised if he is even gone before #5. I just don't see any TE being more valuable to this team than a stud S.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhavin72 wrote:
I just can't see them passing up on Taylor if he is still available. I wouldn't be suprised if he is even gone before #5. I just don't see any TE being more valuable to this team than a stud S.


Then you, my friend, have never seen a Gibbs offense at work.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Don Warren and Terry Orr combined for maybe 30 catches a season. I know the tight end is an important part of Gibbs' offense, but moreso as blockers rather than receivers. If anything, we should consider using our 2nd round pick on that 320 pound tight end out of Arkansas.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FELLAS LETS NOT FORGET ..
ERRON KINNEY - TITANS - IS ALSO STILL AVAILABLE
http://www.rotoworld.com/display2.asp?sport=NFL&page=players&X=5097&Y=0
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I saw that to, but the Titans may move to keep him since Wychek has annouced his retirement
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the giants might grab taylor
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noshirtforyou wrote:
I think the giants might grab taylor


The Giants are sure to be pushing for Oline help, so I think we'll be safe with Taylor at #5.
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