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Skinsfan55
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: Counter Trey? |
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Hey guys,
I'm too young to know much about Coach Gibbs, but what exactly is this "counter trey" play I keep hearing about? could someone help me out? |
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Justice Hog
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| See the "pulling guard" thread. That essentially the play where a guard pulls out and runs right or left to lead the way for Riggins...I mean...our RB! |
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DEHog
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:36 am Post subject: |
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That's pretty much it.
The term counter mean a play starts one way...say right then ends up going left. Trey means three lineman are leading the way. If you watch any of the old Skins game on ESPN you'll see it. |
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skinsfaninroanoke
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| DEHog, I thought it was two linemen - not meaning to contradict... I thought it was the left guard and tackle pulling right, or vice versa depending on which way it went. |
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Justice Hog
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought it was two linemen as well. Maybe the "trey" stands for the 2 linemen and the RB? |
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DEHog
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: |
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I thought it was two lineman and TE ??? I could be wrong??
Good to see ya back SfaninR!! |
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skinsfaninroanoke
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| hehehe... had to do a trade show in Atlanta - took all week - I was so busy I didn't have time to do anything besides work the show and sleep... |
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DEHog
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: |
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AH OK,
Yea I'm doing the same thing next week...will be in Dallas for two days then on to Chicago for 4 days so I'll be off the board for a while. |
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Warmother
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| Your right about the 2 linemen DEHog and Skinsfan..On the counter trey the Center, Guard and Tackle on one side blocks down while the RB fakes goingthe same direction as the blocks. While all this is going on the other Guard and Tackle pull to the opposite side of the line and the RB cuts back behind them and gets the handoff. The G and T take out anything in thier way, hopefully a saftey and CB and the RB takes the ball to the house. Depending on formation the H-back or TE could also be blocking at the point of attack. |
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Skinsfan55
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Gosh, seeing as how I've never seen this in action before it sounds like a pretty slow play to get working.
So the tackle, guard and center all block right, the halfback fakes right then heads left behind the left guard and tackel who are split out from the line and start lead blocking, then the halfback runs to daylight following the fullback or tight end? Whew, luckily we have skilled offensive line, a good blocking FB and with ANY luck we'll have a brilliant TE named Kellen Winslow Jr.  |
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RedskinsFreak
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Oh my, the visions of 68 (Grimm) and 66 (Jacoby) pulling around and leading 44 to open greenness of football field.
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hailskins666
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Oh my, the visions of 68 (Grimm) and 66 (Jacoby) pulling around and leading 44 to open greenness of football field. |
then to have 44 drag a dolphin ten yds only to break free for a TD..... ok i'm not exactly sure that particular play was a counter trey, but it sounded good, huh? |
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RedskinsFreak
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| hailskins666 wrote: | | Quote: | | Oh my, the visions of 68 (Grimm) and 66 (Jacoby) pulling around and leading 44 to open greenness of football field. |
then to have 44 drag a dolphin ten yds only to break free for a TD..... ok i'm not exactly sure that particular play was a counter trey, but it sounded good, huh? |
If sure does. The play, however, was 70 Chip. |
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skinsfaninroanoke
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:52 am Post subject: |
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So it is a 2 man pull... ok... just wanted to make sure I remembered it right
The TE and the FB seal off the backside and the LT and LG pull to the right knocking the cleats off of anyone downfield wanting to set his sights on our runner - I like that thinking
I bet PRam likes that too - I still say our backs that we have on the roster would perform much better this year under Gibbs given the opportunity to run behind his run block schemes and consistent game planning of the run game. SOS was so on again off again on the run game it isn't a surprise that no back did well consistently... give 'em a chance I say - imagine Trung's speed behind the counter trey - right after the guys engage the blockers, Trung pops out and scoots down the sidelines outracing the poor safety who took a bad angle coming up on run support... |
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IN THE MASTER OF GETTING THE MOST OUT THE OFFENSIVE LINE.BACK IN THE DAYS JOE JACOBY WAS THE FIRST LINE TO COME AROUND THE CORNER(RIGHT SIDE) LIKE A RODE GRADER.
IN THE FOURTH QUARTER ,OPPOSING DEFENSES WOULD JUST FADE.
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