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JSPB22
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Primetime42 wrote: | | JSPB22 wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | forskins wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: |
Wow. Then I suppose that Gibbs won three "bass ackwards" Superbowls, as well as lead a 10-6 team, with a sweep of Dallas, to the playoffs last year. His philosophy on personnel has been fairly consistent throughout his career in the NFL.
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All of those Superbowls were before Free Agency, so one could go on spending spree with Free Agents and not think twice about it. That same philosophy won't bring long term success in today's game when Free agents are paid tons more then drafted rookies. |
Again, we'll see. The Redskins haven't made as many "high profile" free agent moves in recent years, which is the shift that we're seeing from the early Snyder era. Again, this year was a down year, so I'm not defending our moves, but if you look at the free agents acquired in Gibbs' first two seasons we didn't go for the biggest names out there. . .with the one exception being Clinton Portis--and he's been a great addition, as it turns out.
Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Phillip Daniels, Griffin, Rabach, Thomas, Sellers, Moss. . .none of these were the biggest names out there, yet all have contributed as much as Cooley, Jansen, Taylor, Rogers, Marshall, and our other draft picks have.
The key is to pick up FA's without the damage to the salary cap, which has clearly been the Skins strategy in the past few years. And, like I said, we'll see what works and what doesn't. The Cowboys look like the stronger team this year but were swept by the Skins last year. . .and you never know what next year will bring. |
Actually, those SBs were not before free agency, just free agency as we know it now. We got Wilbur Marshall in free agency from Da Bears. Also Portis was aquired via trade, not free agency. Same with Moss. But hey, why throw logic and reality into a 'Pie fan's delusions.  |
As I recall, draft picks and new contracts were involved.
Selective memory is a great thing, isn't it? |
Draft picks and new contracts don't make a trade any less of a trade, do they? Selective comprehension is not so great a thing, is it? |
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Primetime42
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Just pointing out that it falls into the same category, which is called "Mortgaging the future".
No need to get uppity. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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JSPB22
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| Primetime42 wrote: | Just pointing out that it falls into the same category, which is called "Mortgaging the future".
No need to get uppity. |
No there certainly isn't. Especially if you know any history. Say how George Allen and Bobby Beathard "mortgaged the future" all of those years when we went to 5 SBs and 6 Championship games. If you choose wisely, a veteran is often a better deal than a draft pick. BTW the 3 SBs for the 'Pies were the result of the Herschel Walker trade to Minnesota, Mr. selective memory.
PS How's Martin Grammatica treating ya? What was the damage for Vanderchoke? 2.5 mil or so? That's a hefty mortgage payment for a guy that made 5 of 18 FGs for the 'Pies.
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forskins
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Actually, those SBs were not before free agency, just free agency as we know it now. We got Wilbur Marshall in free agency from Da Bears. Also Portis was aquired via trade, not free agency. Same with Moss. But hey, why throw logic and reality into a 'Pie fan's delusions. |
You know what, I actually mispoke before, I meant to say Salary Cap. Of course free agency has been around for quite some time.
I know you guys are loving the recent debacle of Vanderjerk. So the Cowboys have one free agent bust this year. Are you the Redskins still paying part of Arrington's salary still? Just curious. |
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| forskins wrote: | | Are you the Redskins still paying part of Arrington's salary still? Just curious. |
This isn't baseball...
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| 1niksder wrote: | | forskins wrote: | | JSPB22 wrote: |
Are you the Redskins still paying part of Arrington's salary still? Just curious. |
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This isn't baseball... |
You're putting foul words in my mouth, 1nik. |
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JSPB22 I have no idea what you are talking about  |
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No, I'm sure you don't.  |
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Irn-Bru
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| forskins wrote: | You know what, I actually mispoke before, I meant to say Salary Cap. Of course free agency has been around for quite some time.
I know you guys are loving the recent debacle of Vanderjerk. So the Cowboys have one free agent bust this year. Are you the Redskins still paying part of Arrington's salary still? Just curious. |
forskins, if you can tell me the name of a single player that the Skins wanted to sign but couldn't due to the salary cap, then I'll respond to your point about this being a salary cap era.
Or, if you can tell me when the Skins will actually hit salary cap hell--since we're, you know, "mortgaging our future" and all. . .year after year after year without end. . . --then we can keep talking. Until then, it looks to me like you're just giving us regurgitated ESPN talking points. |
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Primetime42
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| JPM36 wrote: | | Nobody gives a damn what you think. |
That's an obvious lie considering you offer 5th grade rebuttals to a good 80% of the posts I make here |
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JPM36
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Primetime42 wrote: | | JPM36 wrote: | | Nobody gives a damn what you think. |
That's an obvious lie considering you offer 5th grade rebuttals to a good 80% of the posts I make here |
I don't need to take the time to refute every idiotic post you make.
Other people have already done it for me. Telling you how wrong you are would just be redundant.
Why don't you respond to those posts? |
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Primetime42
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Go read. I've responded to every rational argument made to me.
You on the other hand, just keep telling me I'm wrong while making backhanded attempts at insulting me.
Instead of telling me I'm wrong, why not try telling me WHY I'm wrong for once? |
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JPM36
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I never said you were wrong about anything.
All I said was that nobody here cares what you have to say. |
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Primetime42
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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And I told you outright that you're full of it because that simply isn't the case.
There are actually people here I have rational conversation with, you know. |
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