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absinthe1023
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| brad7686 wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | brad7686 wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | brad7686 wrote: | | The betts situation still irks me, they didn't use him at all last year. Sure, portis has a history of injuries, but Betts could have gotten us some serious value, and a cheaper alternative could have been found, especially for a backup. Plus, Sellers is going to get his share of carries anyway. |
The fact that he wasn't used is irrelevant.
An NFL team needs to have two quality workhorse backs. This doesn't mean that they need be platooned in the backfield or share carries, but you need a capable back up to plug in in case of injury.
Sellers is a powerful runner but isn't as versatile as CP and would have problems being effective as a HB over the course of the season, Rock has durability issues when he carries frequently, and Marcus Mason is simply unproven. Who would've stepped in last year if CP went down? Who would you have obtained in FA, and at what price?
Also, Betts still has trade value this year, and that value has not decreased much (if at all) largeley because he didn't rack up the mileage last season, so it's not as if the 'Skins missed out on some magical one year window for trading Betts..... |
I acknowledge that if you are going to have a backup, Betts is an extremely good option- but they said they would be almost platooning the two, and that is the reason they didn't trade Betts for a second rounder. I seriously doubt they would be able to get a second rounder for him this year, because he isn't fresh off of that 1000-some yard half season, and the skins would be without that leverage. |
Betts only carried 93 times this season and wasn't even dinged up. Heck, that only amounts to a quick drive around the block when you consider the carries logged by starting RBs. I submit that with this few carries for an entire season and without a history of significant injury, Mr. Betts is still fresh off his 2006-2007 performance in the eyes of NFL personnel gurus... |
Even if they don't think he's any worse, they will still point to his lack of use last year and try to lowball. They will not be as eager to give up a high draft pick because in their minds they think they should be able to give up less. His sell-high period has expired. I severely doubt he will be traded for that reason, and i hope he isn't if they can't get as much as they could have for him last year. |
I can see where you're coming from, but given the fact that Betts is a proven commodity with relatively-low mileage, I doubt that any team who's truly interested would attempt to lowball, especially since Betts would likely draw interest from multiple teams on the list that I mentioned. |
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yupchagee
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Joined: 19 Apr 2006
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Location: Louisville KY
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| You should consider a career as a creative writer. |
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por-tiz2skins
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| Chad make since and so does Briggs because,from what Im hearing he might not come back at all next year and more. |
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DEHog
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Joined: 15 Dec 2003
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Location: Dover DE
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Here we go again, Snyder just can't help himself marketing and sales are in his blood. He loves this time of year.
I see no reason to spend for Briggs when the D-line and CB are more in need.
I love the choice of words.."Johnson is eager to land a hefty new contract from Washington"...not Johnson wants to be a Redskins. Intentional or not this really speaks to the sentiment thats out there around the league. Want to get paid...have your agent call Dan Snyder. Opps I'm sorry I'm supposed to be happy that we have a owner who is willing to spend. Maybe thats my problem..I've been rooting for the Skins to win games when I should be rooting for them to have the highest payroll...my bad.
Yea let's go get Johnson, Briggs, Samuels and.... |
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VetSkinsFan
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Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Posts: 7779
Location: NoVA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Yup, let's get more drama in the locker room. I think the locker room would be renamed, "The Days of our Redskin's Lives." It could even be webcast so Danny can get more publicity and hence make more money while he sucks the life out of the Redskins.... |
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SkinsFreak
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Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 4884
Location: Surfside
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| Quote: | | Former Pro Bowl linebacker Marcus Washington has been injured often the past three years; third-year linebacker Rocky McIntosh is coming off reconstructive knee surgery and, though making progress, remains a question mark. |
Marcus is one of my favorite players but it is true he's been injured over the past few years, although I think he still has plenty in the tank. I don't agree Rocky remains a question mark. Before he suffered his injury, he was dominating. But I do think it may take half a season for him to get back to full speed. We also don't have a ton of depth at the OLB position, hence the addition and use of Godfrey. That said, I can kinda understand why they might go after Briggs.
I would be some what disappointed to see Rock leave. He's a core Redskin and a good locker room guy. But, I've made my feelings known regarding the potential of Marcus Mason and his potential in this new offense.
Chad Johnson? Ugh. Just another diva looking to get paid. I don't think he fits in with character guys like ARE, Moss, Campbell, Samuels, Thomas and numerous others on offense. I see another Deion Sanders situation with that move. Johnson will get paid and slack off.
One of my good friends is a huge Eagles fan and he and his cohorts want Chad real bad. I could pass. I just see Chad as a selfish player who's all about me, me and me. However, folks did say the same thing about T.O. and Randy Moss and they seemed to turn out alright with their respective teams.
I'd rather them go after a young up and comer in the draft like Limas Sweed. He'll be hungry and driven to prove himself at the next level. Chad already thinks he's the the king and I can do without a player like that. But knowing Snyder and his free agency stiffy, I'm afraid it could happen. |
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SkinsFreak
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Not that his opinion means much, but Mike Golic just ripped Snyder regarding his head coaching search and hires, but said Dan does pay to get some good players, "which is what you want from an owner" and really likes the potential addition of Chad Johnson to the Skins roster. Also made the comparison of Randy Moss and his success on the field and in the locker room in New England. |
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Skin Diesel
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| Those two doofuses are truly unbelievable. They hire a guy who has never been a head coach and who may or may not be able to manage an offense, much less a full roster of players. They somehow believe that bringing in Chad Johnson is a good idea, even though he caused problems with the Bengals and Marvin Lewis, and is fussing to get traded. Plus, he's not even a free agent, so they'll have to give up draft picks to get him rather than try to sign someone who is already available. How many times can those two idiots screw this team up? I really hope that Zorn works out, but clearly Johnson will not help this team in its transition. This is insanity. |
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riggofan
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| I'd be happy to have Chad Johnson, but I hate the idea of giving up a lot of draft picks for him. At some point we need to start taking those picks seriously. If we have to give up anything higher than a third rounder, forget about it. |
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4olddc
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| I'd much rather have Larry Fitzgerald than Chad Johnson. I think Larry could be just as good as Chad and he doesn't come with all of the headaches that Chad does. |
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SkinsFreak
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Just for the record, and I'm not saying it will or won't happen, but ESPN is all over this story. ESPN is citing the Washington Post as its source and we all know that source is JLC.
Last week, JLC claimed, according to "flight tracking software", Dan Snyder's plane was en route to Arizona to presumably pick up Fassel. That wasn't true by any means. JLC has also spit out numerous rumors in recent past that were proven to be completely false.
As Fios noted in another thread, it will cost the Bengals in excess of $8 million to trade CJ.
Again, not saying Snyder wouldn't try this, but until someone other than JLC offers any proof of this, I'll remain skeptical of JLC's "unnamed sources". |
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Redskin in Canada
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| Jake wrote: | Getting Johnson.... bad move.
Getting rid of Thrash... even worse. This guy is a core Redskin and is one of the most key players to team chemistry.
Moving Alexander to offensive line could bring about interesting results.
Much like if Thrash departs, jettisoning Khary Campbell would be very damning to our special teams. |
Could not agree more. All good points. |
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NC43Hog
Brown in the Hall
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| riggofan wrote: | | . . . but I hate the idea of giving up a lot of draft picks for him. |
I am pretty sure that is how our FO does things - could be wrong.  |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| I swear if we make a dumb offseason move you will see me zap out like never before in the smack forum. lol I just feel it in my bones. |
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Sir_Monk
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| Quote: | | I'd much rather have Larry Fitzgerald than Chad Johnson. I think Larry could be just as good as Chad and he doesn't come with all of the headaches that Chad does. |
Is Fitzgerald a free agent? I think he fits the mold of what we need in a number of ways, considering his age and size, much better then Chad Johnson.
Though the week leading up to a CJ/TO match up would be kind of interesting, from the cap implications of a large salary to the loss of 1st day draft pick, besides his locker room cancer attitude, I really would not want him in Maroon and Yellow. |
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