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VetSkinsFan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Looks a little light to be a physical big man. |
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fleetus
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| Which is why he would be available in later rounds. Still, he plays physical, which might be more important than height and weight. |
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VetSkinsFan
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| If you don't have the mass vs other more larger and physical players, you are at a disadvantage. You think that Randy Moss and T.O. would be as physical of receivers if they were 6' 200#? |
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fleetus
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| Randy Moss is a good example. He's tall, but pretty skinny. He plays physical just fine, although he's not known for being a great over-the-middle receiver. Anyway, you don't get perfect players in the later rounds. |
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yupchagee
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| fleetus wrote: | | Randy Moss is a good example. He's tall, but pretty skinny. He plays physical just fine, although he's not known for being a great over-the-middle receiver. Anyway, you don't get perfect players in the later rounds. |
You don't get perfect players in ANY round. All players are, after all, human. |
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gay4pacman
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When drafting late round players, usually they are good at one thing (speed, height weight, etc.) you need to maximize your needs and draft a player that excells in the one attribute you need most and then casn be developed in other aspects of his game.
an example: Marcus Thomas RB, UTEP- he has the size and weight 6'2 213 but has a non confrontational running style. One would draft him late if they like his size and thi8nk they can develop the other aspects of his game. |
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fleetus
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| gay4pacman wrote: | When drafting late round players, usually they are good at one thing (speed, height weight, etc.) you need to maximize your needs and draft a player that excells in the one attribute you need most and then casn be developed in other aspects of his game.
an example: Marcus Thomas RB, UTEP- he has the size and weight 6'2 213 but has a non confrontational running style. One would draft him late if they like his size and thi8nk they can develop the other aspects of his game. |
Another good strategy is to pair up the players biggest deficiency with what your coaches teach best. For example, if Joe Bugel were considered the best teacher in the league for run-blocking technique, then you might draft a late round offensive lineman who has excellent size and strength but does not have very good run blocking technique. |
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Countertrey
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| yupchagee wrote: | | fleetus wrote: | | Randy Moss is a good example. He's tall, but pretty skinny. He plays physical just fine, although he's not known for being a great over-the-middle receiver. Anyway, you don't get perfect players in the later rounds. |
You don't get perfect players in ANY round. All players are, after all, human. |
That's certainly true... but it's also true that some push off better than others... Randy... and Michael Irvin... masters of the magic "separation" move... |
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yupchagee
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| Countertrey wrote: | | yupchagee wrote: | | fleetus wrote: | | Randy Moss is a good example. He's tall, but pretty skinny. He plays physical just fine, although he's not known for being a great over-the-middle receiver. Anyway, you don't get perfect players in the later rounds. |
You don't get perfect players in ANY round. All players are, after all, human. |
That is something that should be learnable.
That's certainly true... but it's also true that some push off better than others... Randy... and Michael Irvin... masters of the magic "separation" move... |
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yupchagee
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| Countertrey wrote: | | yupchagee wrote: | | fleetus wrote: | | Randy Moss is a good example. He's tall, but pretty skinny. He plays physical just fine, although he's not known for being a great over-the-middle receiver. Anyway, you don't get perfect players in the later rounds. |
You don't get perfect players in ANY round. All players are, after all, human. |
That's certainly true... but it's also true that some push off better than others... Randy... and Michael Irvin... masters of the magic "separation" move... |
That is something that should be learnable. |
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Countertrey
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| yupchagee wrote: | | Countertrey wrote: | | yupchagee wrote: | | fleetus wrote: | | Randy Moss is a good example. He's tall, but pretty skinny. He plays physical just fine, although he's not known for being a great over-the-middle receiver. Anyway, you don't get perfect players in the later rounds. |
You don't get perfect players in ANY round. All players are, after all, human. |
That's certainly true... but it's also true that some push off better than others... Randy... and Michael Irvin... masters of the magic "separation" move... |
That is something that should be learnable. |
The move is completely learnable... I still haven't figured out what it takes to get the refs to pretend it didn't happen, though...
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| Countertrey wrote: | The move is completely learnable... I still haven't figured out what it takes to get the refs to pretend it didn't happen, though...
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The receiver must be 6'3" or taller.
The receiver must be African-American. (White Guys can't Push-Off Rule)
The receiver must be over-rated.
The receiver must have a childish attitude and temper tantrums to match.
The receiver must be self-centered, egomaniacal, and live by the mantra, "All for one and I'm the one."
These things get the officials to overlook offensive pass interference.
Being a coke fiend / crack monkey / rock hound / whatever drug it is that Dallas players are infamous for abusing obviously helps, too. Maybe every time Irvin and T.O. push off, they look at the official and yell, "Withdrawal Symptoms." |
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