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GSPODS
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: The Latest Mock Drafts |
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-- Mike Mayock, NFL Network
No. 21: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Redskins.com comment: Look for Campbell to be a popular pick for the Redskins. Mayock, the Mel Kiper of the NFL Network, says the first pick of the Jim Zorn era needs to be a pass-rushing defensive end. "Calais Campbell's best football is ahead of him as he grows into his 6-8 frame," Mayock says.
-- Vic Carucci, NFL.com
No. 21: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Redskins.com comment: Sweed's another popular pick. Carucci thinks the Redskins need a new spark on offense, and he looks for the team to draft the 6-4, 212-pound Sweed. In Carucci's mock, Sweed would be the third wide receiver taken behind Oklahoma's Malcolm Kelly and Cal's DeSean Jackson.
-- Pat Kirwan, NFL.com
No. 21: Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
Redskins.com comment: With Calais Campbell drafted by the Vikings four spots ahead of No. 21, Kirwan thinks the Redskins will settle on Merling, a 6-5, 270-pounder who had seven sacks last year. Kirwan points out that Merling is "coming off a sports hernia, which means he could drop to Washington."
-- Clark Judge, CBS Sportsline
No. 21: Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
Redskins.com comment: Judge writes that the Redskins could use "help along the offensive line, especially with a young quarterback." So why does he think the Redskins will take Flowers? He has the fast-rising Virginia offensive lineman Branden Albert still on the board at No. 21, too.
-- The Sporting News
No. 21: Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
Redskins.com comment: At 6-4 and 220 pounds, Kelly fits the mold of a big wide receiver that the Redskins will need in the West Coast offense. He has 19 touchdown grabs for the Sooners the last two seasons. Incidentally, The Sporting News has the Redskins drafting North Carolina defensive tackle Kentwan Balmer in the second round.
-- Scott Wright, NFL Draft Countdown
No. 21: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Redskins.com comment: This is one of the best NFL Draft sites on the web, in my opinion. Wright points out that Campbell's former defensive line coach John Palermo is now in charge of the Redskins' defensive line. But if the Redskins want to make a splash, Wright thinks a big receiver like Michigan State's Devin Thomas or Texas's Sweed could be the pick.
-- Sam Farmer, Los Angeles Times
No. 21: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Redskins.com comment: The well-respected journalist Farmer sees Campbell in the Redskins' future. With Phillip Daniels getting up in age, the team needs an "infusion of youth on the defensive front," Farmer writes.
-- Jarrett Bell, USA Today
No. 21: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Redskins.com comment: More on Campbell: He logged 18.5 sacks in three seasons with the Hurricanes, including 10 in his sophomore campaign. He has been compared in size and style to the Texans' Mario Williams.
-- Pro Football Talk
No. 21: Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma
Redskins.com comment: The popular NFL rumor site has a surprise pick in Smith, a 6-1 and 197-pounder who could play cornerback or safety in the pros. He's a physical defender, so he should fit right in on the Redskins' defense.
-- Chris Steuber, Scout.com
No. 21: Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
Redskins.com comment: Thomas could be the next Plaxico Burress, a big wide receiver out of Michigan State. He had 79 catches for 1,260 yards and eight touchdowns last year for the Spartans.
-- KFFL.com
No. 21: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Redskins.com comment: This fantasy football site claims that Redskins fans will "get their wish with a big WR" in Sweed. In the second round, it's Maryland linebacker Erin Henderson to "eventually replace soon-to-be 33-year-old London Fletcher." Hey...What about H.B. Blades?
-- DraftKing.com
No. 21: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Redskins.com comment: Hail Draft King! Another draft site has the Redskins bypassing defensive line help in favor of a tall, rangy wide receiver. Draft King also has a (gulp) 2009 projection: the Redskins pick 15th overall and go with outside linebacker Sean Lee from Penn State.
-- NBCSports.com
No. 21: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Redskins.com comment: Contributor Steve Silverman claims the Redskins have fallen in love with Michigan wide receiver Mario Manningham. Who knew? But Manningham goes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at No. 20. So the Redskins turn to Sweed: he finished with 124 catches and 20 TDs at Texas, but he had his senior season cut short due to wrist injury.
-- DraftDaddy.com
No. 21: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Redskins.com comment: Draft Daddy is back, and they fall in line with Sweed. In the second round, Draft Daddy likes Texas A&M defensive tackle Red Bryant. Anyone named "Red" is fine with me.
-- ExtremeSkins Fan Mock No. 1
No. 21: Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
Redskins.com comment: Let's check in with the fans. Redskins fan "#21Taylor4Ever" posted a mock that had Merling as the Redskins' top pick. The Frederick, Md., native writes: "I think we all know Daniels is done and Wilson's a project with potential. We need an impact DE opposite Carter and Merling fits that bill." Love the jab at the Patriots, by the way.
-- ExtremeSkins Fan Mock No. 2
No. 21: Branden Albert, OL, Virginia
Redskins.com comment: Redskins fan "Clemenza1112" has a mock that he says is better than ESPN talking heads Mel Kiper and Todd McShay. Albert is a fast-rising offensive lineman who can play either guard or center. "Clemenza1112" says he'll eventually be Pete Kendall's replacement at left guard.
-- NFLDraftDog.com
No. 21: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Redskins.com comment: Woof woof.
-- NFLDraftBlitz.com
No. 21: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Redskins.com comment: Wonder who the Redskins will select in the 2012 NFL Draft. NFLDraftBlitz.com has its 2009-12 mock ready, but you have to pay to read it. Never mind...
-- James Alder, About.com
No. 21: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Redskins.com comment: What about Rounds 2-4? Alder goes the extra mile. Nebraska offensive tackle Carl Nicks is the Redskins' second-round pick, while UTEP safety Quentin Demps and Arkansas cornerback Michael Grant are third-rounders.
-- SportzNutz.com
No. 21: DeSean Jackson, WR California
Redskins.com comment: SportzNutz.com claims to have a computer that has combined their own experts' draft picks along with draft grades from 50 other web sites and other (unnamed) criteria. And the computer picks...Jackson, a smallish wide receiver. Um, someone tell the computer that the Redskins are in need of a big receiver. |
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gay4pacman
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i really dont like calais campbell with the 21st pick. he is just a big body and will have trouble because he is sooooo stiff.
Yeah he is 6 7 but he cant really control the edge like we would like with a de picked that high. he has too many holes to pick that high. |
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ChocolateMilk
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Limas Sweed! Limas Sweed! Limas Sweed!!!! |
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fleetus
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| I like Brandon Flowers. Guy is a FOOTBALL player, can hit, can cover, reads plays like a MLB. He is projected lower by many, but there are a few experts who say, ignore his 40, because he can flat play and you don't measure that with a stop watch. |
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CanesSkins26
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| fleetus wrote: | | I like Brandon Flowers. Guy is a FOOTBALL player, can hit, can cover, reads plays like a MLB. He is projected lower by many, but there are a few experts who say, ignore his 40, because he can flat play and you don't measure that with a stop watch. |
He's a solid player, but not worthy of being the 21st overall pick imho. |
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LOSTHOG
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| I like Flowers too. I'm not sure if he is worth to be 21st pick. I also say that about a lot of the players being mentioned. |
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PeetyPa
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| I really like flowers , I watched a lot of his games , however, I think we have bigger needs than a CB. But no question, the guy is a physical football player.. |
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PulpExposure
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Anyone who has us spending our first rounder on a 5'9" Wide Receiver (DeSean Jackson) should turn in their NFL draft-predicting credentials immediately.
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PeetyPa
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| I believe it is either going to be A WR or a D-line. My position is that the value wont be there for a DE or DT at 21st , so I would take a WR. Either Limas or Thomas from michigan State. |
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yupchagee
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| PulpExposure wrote: | Anyone who has us spending our first rounder on a 5'9" Wide Receiver (DeSean Jackson) should turn in their NFL draft-predicting credentials immediately.
Oh? There aren't any? |
Likewise anyone who has us drafting a DB or OT in the 1st rnd. |
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SkinsFreak
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| yupchagee wrote: | | PulpExposure wrote: | Anyone who has us spending our first rounder on a 5'9" Wide Receiver (DeSean Jackson) should turn in their NFL draft-predicting credentials immediately.
Oh? There aren't any? |
Likewise anyone who has us drafting a DB or OT in the 1st rnd. |
I agree with you that we shouldn't use our 1st round pick on a DB. However...
It depends on what happens in front of us. If Sweed, Thomas and Kelly are gone, and it's currently projected the top 5 DE's will also be gone, a DB might be the best player on the board at that point. Again, I believe you take the best player available in the 1st round. If the WR's and the DE's are gone, what other position would be next in line and worth a 1st round pick for us?
If the top DE's, DT's and WR's are gone, it would most likely be reaching to just take the next best guy at those positions. A DB "may" be the best guy on the board, depending on who has already been taken.
It's my opinion that either Sweed, Thomas or Kelly will actually be there when we pick and my vote is for a WR. But you have to have back-up plan in place if your guys are already gone. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| At 21 we definitely need to take the best player and not pick by position. Higher and you have some flexibility to still get a top player. Lower and we need to get some prospects in at position of need. But at 21 we're past the top players and if we're drafting for position that could mean we're really picking a late first round or even early second round player. At almost any position it's better to get some quality depth then doing that. About the only positions I don't think we'd get value and need for the pick would be kicker, punter, QB or RB. I have a hard time seeing those. But anything else I say we just take the best player unless it's a virtual tie between highest need and lesser need positions. |
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yupchagee
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | At 21 we definitely need to take the best player and not pick by position. Higher and you have some flexibility to still get a top player. Lower and we need to get some prospects in at position of need. But at 21 we're past the top players and if we're drafting for position that could mean we're really picking a late first round or even early second round player. At almost any position it's better to get some quality depth then doing that. About the only positions I don't think we'd get value and need for the pick would be kicker, punter, QB or RB. I have a hard time seeing those. But anything else I say we just take the best player unless it's a virtual tie between highest need and lesser need positions. |
I believe in picking the player who will help the team the most. IMHO that will not be a DB or OT. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| yupchagee wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | At 21 we definitely need to take the best player and not pick by position. Higher and you have some flexibility to still get a top player. Lower and we need to get some prospects in at position of need. But at 21 we're past the top players and if we're drafting for position that could mean we're really picking a late first round or even early second round player. At almost any position it's better to get some quality depth then doing that. About the only positions I don't think we'd get value and need for the pick would be kicker, punter, QB or RB. I have a hard time seeing those. But anything else I say we just take the best player unless it's a virtual tie between highest need and lesser need positions. |
I believe in picking the player who will help the team the most. IMHO that will not be a DB or OT. |
We have age at both those positions though with Springs and Smoot in the former and Jansen and Samuels in the latter. Rogers is coming off an injury and while I'm not advocating cutting him, he hasn't been a shut down corner. Let's say we're picking and there is a clear quality starter caliber player at one of those positions we rate above everyone at other positions. Not only would they be some depth and future at those positions but we could really bring them along the right way and groom them rather then throwing them in. "If" that happened, you really think we should pass and pick a lower quality player at another position? That makes no sense to me. |
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Gibbs4Life
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| I say we package some picks and move up to get Chris Long; look what defensive pressure did for NY last year, Daniels is almost done and Long has been playing in Virginia! Make the deal move up and take Howie's kid. |
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