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 » So You Want a Quarterback in the 2nd or 3rd Round?

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VetSkinsFan
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hogster wrote:
Looks like we actually did land a Quarterback with our 2nd Round pick. And, this one can actually step in and lead us right away.


For 2-3 years at most...sop much for that long term vision.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

let this play out. We'll get a second round pick back for Campbell
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chiefhog44 wrote:
let this play out. We'll get a second round pick back for Campbell


I will eat my underwear if some team trades us a 2d round pick straight up for Campbell. There is no freaking way.
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Countertrey
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riggofan wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:
let this play out. We'll get a second round pick back for Campbell


I will eat my underwear if some team trades us a 2d round pick straight up for Campbell. There is no freaking way.


Please get us a second round pick...
Please get us a second round pick...

Pray
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VetSkinsFan wrote:
The Hogster wrote:
Looks like we actually did land a Quarterback with our 2nd Round pick. And, this one can actually step in and lead us right away.


For 2-3 years at most...sop much for that long term vision.


Yes, but when you consider that it would be 2-3 years before a rookie would be ready to lead us to realistic contention, then its clear that we're trying to be competitive now, and build gradually, rather than adopt the thrash and burn method.

Why do we think we can address ALL of our holes through the draft, when we only had 5 picks? Getting a legit QB allows us to use the other picks on realistic needs, while still competing.

If we kept the pick and drafted Okung and Lefevour or Tebow in the 2nd, then we'd still be meddling in mediocrity while waiting for the 2nd round pick to be ready to lead us. I don't think Shanahan believes we are too bad to even compete.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Countertrey wrote:
riggofan wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:
let this play out. We'll get a second round pick back for Campbell


I will eat my underwear if some team trades us a 2d round pick straight up for Campbell. There is no freaking way.


Please get us a second round pick...
Please get us a second round pick...

Pray


hahah. I will YOUTUBE it to boot!!!

I like JC, but I think we'd be lucky to get a 5th rounder for him. We just don't have any leverage. Teams can pretty much just sit back and wait for us to release him.
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SkinsJock
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VetSkinsFan wrote:
The Hogster wrote:
Looks like we actually did land a Quarterback with our 2nd Round pick. And, this one can actually step in and lead us right away.


For 2-3 years at most...so much for that long term vision.


OK Vet! - but long or short term, we are better off with a leader like McNabb at QB than a QB with no good QB traits or skills whatsoever like Campbell

Hey guys! - IF this were such a bad deal why are there so many fans of the other NFC East teams AND so many of the media thinking this is a very good deal for the Redskins and a bad deal for the Eagles
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VetSkinsFan wrote:
The Hogster wrote:
Looks like we actually did land a Quarterback with our 2nd Round pick. And, this one can actually step in and lead us right away.


For 2-3 years at most...sop much for that long term vision.

To get to a goal requires two steps:

1) Identify the goal
2) Create a path to the goal

When you're getting younger, you need to not only get younger players but you need to have guys to do the transition. McNabb is a vet QB who knows the position and how to win in the NFL and should have a few years in the tank. This takes pressure off us to get a young QB who can start right away, provides a mentor to a young QB who knows how to win in the NFL and provides a quality QB so other positions can grow. So for example Thomas, Davis and Kelly get a QB who can throw them the ball, not drill the ball into the ground at their feet or throw it over their heads or behind them in game conditions, which helps them grow as well.

McNabb is a good step to help us get younger if you analyze that he's part of the path, not the destination. QB affects everything else on O and he's a great fit for what we really need right now.
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SkinsJock
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eloquently stated Kazoo Wink
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