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1) Stay at #4, draft Okung - Okung is the consensus 4th best player and he fits the Skins biggest need. He is solid, no known character issues.

So you might say, given the above, why look a gift horse in the mouth? You need a LT, the best LT in the draft is sitting there at #4, there's no real down side to drafting him. Done deal right? Well, not so fast

I don't see the Skins getting trade offers from teams wanting to move up to #4. What player would teams move up for? The top 3, Bradford, Suh and McCoy are gone. I don't see teams moving up to get Berry, #5 is about as high as a safety will be drafted, IMO. Moving up for Okung is unlikely, since Williams, Bulaga and Davis are all decent OL's available below #4. Teams don't usually trade up into the top 5 and when they do, it is for a game changing type player. Okung is more of a steady OL you hope to have for a decade. He's not rated like an Orlando Pace or Jonathan Ogden. Clausen will be available much lower than 4. So trading down is unlikely to happen.

Trade up? Despite some media outlets continuing to talk about a trade up for Bradford, I don't see it. Why trade picks for McNabb, if you intended to trade up for Bradford? It would have made more sense to keep Campbell as the interim starter and the (McNabb) draft picks if Bradford was your target all along. I think the media outlets reporting this are basically clueless.

How about a trade up to #2. I admit this makes little sense, unless it is fairly complicated. The best suitor for Haynesworth may be Detroit. AH's former coach is the HC in Detroit. More than likely he will just draft Suh and get AH's talent in a younger, less whiny player. But if he felt like AH was a perfect fit, he could offer the #2 for the Skins #4 plus some additional 2nd/3rd round picks.

2) Skins trade their #4 + Haynesworth for Detroits #2 + 2nd round pick. Why do the Skins do this? For one, maybe they are simply trying to get more value than Detroit's 2nd rounder? Maybe Detroit figures it is a wash because moving from #2 down to 4 makes little difference to them. They get their DT in AH and now use the #4 to select the best OL available, whether that is Okung or Trent Williams doesn't matter much. Also, the Skins might have some trade down ability with the #2 pick. #4 was almost untradeable, but #2 and the chance to get Suh is a big draw. Maybe the Skins get decent value for AH plus trade down from #2 and net additional picks later in the draft?

What if the Skins intend to stay at #4 but select someone other than Okung? Two players come to mind here. Trent Williams and Eric Berry. Williams may be a better fit for Shanahan's zone blocking scheme which demands lineman be fast and agile enough to pull and also to get to the 2nd level quickly to block LB's. Okung is athletic enough, but his blocking downfield is a little suspect. Williams and even maybe Bulaga are possibly better fits in this system.

Then there is Berry. With Landry's poor coverage skills and his bulking up to 230-240#, it seems obvious he will be playing closer to the line of scrimmage, out of necessity if nothing else. So who can play FS in Washington? Berry would be perfect. He is much close to Sean Taylor in terms of range and coverage ability than Landry is.

3) Skins stay at #4 and draft Trent Williams.

4) Skins stay at #4 and draft Eric Berry.

Do you have any first round scenarios other than the four listed above?

[langleyparkjoe]

NO MORE SCENARIOS! Ya'll are making my head hurt!.. plus its all the same at this point

[riggofan]

[langleyparkjoe]

Riggo, I will be furious if we pick him

[frankcal20]

In another thread I said the exact same scenario as what you mentioned with trading up to #2.

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[frankcal20]

Here's the only way, I think, is we move out of #4:

1. Lions take Okung at 2 and one of the DT's is available.
2. Someone wants to jump ahead of KC to take Berry b/c the value is there.
3. Okung is there and there is fear that we draft him or KC drafts him.

That's just a few that I've thought about as being the most likely possibilities.

[frankcal20]

...to continue:

#4 - We move up by using Haynesworth to pick up Bradford and them move him to a team like Seattle for their two first round picks and maybe another mid round like a 4th. We can pick up a lineman in the 1st and then one of the stud CB's, a safety, LB or even a QB like Tebow as a future project player/trick play guy.

[Skinsfan55]

Okung is a boring pcik, a solid, steady LT who may not ever be elite but is almost certain to be a VERY good tackle for a long time.

I'm okay with that.

Eric Berry is an elite FS, he'll very likely be a great player, and he was a good enough cover guy to play CB in college. He is a damn fine player... but we need a LT, we need a FS too, but the o-line is something we've ignored for too long.

[Skins Fan in Indy]

Can you say protect McNabb?. Please with that #4 pick take OL. What is this im hearing about trading with the Rams for the #1 and getting Bradford. Does this have any traction or legs?

[frankcal20]

probably a lot of smoke at this point. Everyone is saying the same thing - what the Skins do at #4 is going to be the biggest question mark of the day.

[SkinsJock]

I must admit it is kind of mind boggling when you consider all the various scenarios - I will be fine with whomever we pick a 4 if we have to go that route - all of the guys that are likely to be there will very likely help this franchise for a long while

The one thing I will point out is that we are very lucky in my estimation to have these 2 guys doing this instead of Cerrato and Snyder what a waste that combination has proven to be - Shanahan having had a year off to evaluate and plan and Allen having the authority to be as bold as he can to try and make the moves we need to get this train wreck of a franchise back on the tracks



this could be one of the most exciting drafts for a long while

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[Skins Fan in Indy]