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The Hogster
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| Deadskins wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | NFL network is reporting only the 2012 4th rounder, which I don't understand. Why didn't we at least get something next year? And for being so far off, a 4th rounder is really low compensation. |
If there is no draft next year, due to the labor situation then what? |
I still think there would be a draft, the lockout wouldn't occur until August or September. But if they didn't have a draft in 2011, then we got McNabb for a 2nd rounder only.  |
Yep. I think you are right. It's a lot of uncertainty surrounding the possible lockout and the implications on the draft, free agency, etc. Hopefully there is no lockout. I can barely make the offseason without football. |
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Skinsfan55
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| I still say a lockout makes zero sense. They'll come to an agreement. |
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Manchester_Redskin
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Location: Ex-Brit now living in Thailand
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| Skinsfan55 wrote: | | I still say a lockout makes zero sense. They'll come to an agreement. |
They said the same about the NHL.
The last two times we had a labor dispute we won the superbowl .... get them gates locked  |
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Skinsfan55
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| Manchester_Redskin wrote: | | Skinsfan55 wrote: | | I still say a lockout makes zero sense. They'll come to an agreement. |
They said the same about the NHL.
The last two times we had a labor dispute we won the superbowl .... get them gates locked |
Yeah, and look what happened to the NHL. It absolutely crippled them. I think that was a lesson on lockouts. I don't see why anyone would do it again. |
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cleg
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| I think the Raiders will be much better than people think and Jason is going to be a big part of that. It would not surprise me at all if they make the playoffs next season. So Jason haters might have to see him in the playoffs while we sit home (mainly because of our division and schedule). I hope he does well and that people on this board debate for years that we should have kept him. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| cleg wrote: | | I think the Raiders will be much better than people think and Jason is going to be a big part of that. It would not surprise me at all if they make the playoffs next season. So Jason haters might have to see him in the playoffs while we sit home (mainly because of our division and schedule). I hope he does well and that people on this board debate for years that we should have kept him. |
Sure cleg, if we think he's not a good quarterback that means we "hate" him.  |
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Countertrey
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | cleg wrote: | | I think the Raiders will be much better than people think and Jason is going to be a big part of that. It would not surprise me at all if they make the playoffs next season. So Jason haters might have to see him in the playoffs while we sit home (mainly because of our division and schedule). I hope he does well and that people on this board debate for years that we should have kept him. |
Sure cleg, if we think he's not a good quarterback that means we "hate" him. |
Probably all those Philly fans, rubbing off...  |
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cleg
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | cleg wrote: | | I think the Raiders will be much better than people think and Jason is going to be a big part of that. It would not surprise me at all if they make the playoffs next season. So Jason haters might have to see him in the playoffs while we sit home (mainly because of our division and schedule). I hope he does well and that people on this board debate for years that we should have kept him. |
Sure cleg, if we think he's not a good quarterback that means we "hate" him. |
You are deluded if you think 90% of what is represented on this board is just people expressing thier opinions that he is not a good QB. |
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Deadskins
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| cleg wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | cleg wrote: | | I think the Raiders will be much better than people think and Jason is going to be a big part of that. It would not surprise me at all if they make the playoffs next season. So Jason haters might have to see him in the playoffs while we sit home (mainly because of our division and schedule). I hope he does well and that people on this board debate for years that we should have kept him. |
Sure cleg, if we think he's not a good quarterback that means we "hate" him. |
You are deluded if you think 90% of what is represented on this board is just people expressing thier opinions that he is not a good QB. |
Actually, I've been surprised by the number of people here expressing hopes that he succeeds in Oakland and wishing him well. Certainly not the view of haters. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| cleg wrote: | | You are deluded if you think 90% of what is represented on this board is just people expressing thier opinions that he is not a good QB. |
Maybe you should have read all the discussions where despite how strongly his play was criticized it was noteworthy how much defense he got as being a good teammate, having a good attitude, taking a beating and getting back in and not blaming or pointing fingers. That was so clear cleg, you have the 90/10 backwards. And it frankly is OBVIOUS if you actually read the discussion and the virtual dearth of personal attacks against him. Try reading the discussions of personal criticisms of guys like AH, Rocky, LJ and you'll see a whole lot of comments about their character you just rarely see in the JC discussions. Of course you have to leave your agenda at the door to see it. |
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1niksder
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Location: If I knew ... it would explain a lot but I've seen Homerville on a map, that wasn't helpful at all
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | cleg wrote: | | You are deluded if you think 90% of what is represented on this board is just people expressing thier opinions that he is not a good QB. |
Maybe you should have read all the discussions where despite how strongly his play was criticized it was noteworthy how much defense he got as being a good teammate, having a good attitude, taking a beating and getting back in and not blaming or pointing fingers. That was so clear cleg, you have the 90/10 backwards. And it frankly is OBVIOUS if you actually read the discussion and the virtual dearth of personal attacks against him. Try reading the discussions of personal criticisms of guys like AH, Rocky, LJ and you'll see a whole lot of comments about their character you just rarely see in the JC discussions. Of course you have to leave your agenda at the door to see it. |
I left my agenda at the door once....
Look at me now
There are a few "haters" out there, but they mostly hate poor QB play from ANY Redskins QB, JC plays for Oakland now so no reason for him to be hatted on |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| 1niksder wrote: | I left my agenda at the door once....
Look at me now
There are a few "haters" out there, but they mostly hate poor QB play from ANY Redskins QB, JC plays for Oakland now so no reason for him to be hatted on |
That hatted on discussion was funny.
Since you can't find your town of homerville, I guess that's why you can't find your agenda since you left that at the door and you can't find the door! But if you do find homerville one day you'll get your agenda back! Do you live sort of like Keith Carradine, all your worldly possessions in the bag on your shoulder? |
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frankcal20
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Countertrey
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| 1niksder wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | cleg wrote: | | You are deluded if you think 90% of what is represented on this board is just people expressing thier opinions that he is not a good QB. |
Maybe you should have read all the discussions where despite how strongly his play was criticized it was noteworthy how much defense he got as being a good teammate, having a good attitude, taking a beating and getting back in and not blaming or pointing fingers. That was so clear cleg, you have the 90/10 backwards. And it frankly is OBVIOUS if you actually read the discussion and the virtual dearth of personal attacks against him. Try reading the discussions of personal criticisms of guys like AH, Rocky, LJ and you'll see a whole lot of comments about their character you just rarely see in the JC discussions. Of course you have to leave your agenda at the door to see it. |
I left my agenda at the door once....
Look at me now
There are a few "haters" out there, but they mostly hate poor QB play from ANY Redskins QB, JC plays for Oakland now so no reason for him to be hatted on |
I hatted on Fios once... I had no idea he actually dressed like that...
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VetSkinsFan
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Anyone who's been around knows I'm sad to see JC go. I think he's partially a victim of circumstances, and in a stable system with an actual NFL grade oline, he's going to surprise people.
I have, however, hoped that he'll go somewhere else and get a fresh start. He's still young enough. I believe that he can beat out what's in LA and do well.
It's been said that the Raiders had a good draft. The have speed and talent in WR/RB and I think he'll do okay.  . Good luck Jason! |
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