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TCIYM
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: Stanford Has Announced Andrew Luck Is Returning To School |
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TCIYM
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I suppose this means Carolina is S.O.L., literally. |
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CanesSkins26
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| What an idiot. I guess he didn't learn from the Matt Lienart fiasco. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| CanesSkins26 wrote: | | What an idiot. I guess he didn't learn from the Matt Lienart fiasco. |
Jack Locker and a variety of others as well. In fairness there is one difference. It's not clear if he left if there will be a draft or a season. It's not really fair to make players pick now when that is an unknown. I can see that he's feeling he knows if he stays at Stanford he will play next year. |
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everydayAskinsday
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I dont see how this makes him an idiot.. because of Leinart and Locker? you could also look at Peyton Manning who came back for another year and was still the #1 Draft pick and I think hes turned out to be pretty good..
I dont blame him.. for one there is no guarantee of a season next year and he might not be interested in going to Carolina with no coach in place and no plan for the future until a coach is put in place..
I do know that this will shake up the draft quite a bit and could see our chances of a QB falling to us that we would consider drafting reduced quite a bit as well.. which IMO is for the best .. Im all for trading down and maximizing picks |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| everydayAskinsday wrote: | | I do know that this will shake up the draft quite a bit and could see our chances of a QB falling to us that we would consider drafting reduced quite a bit as well.. which IMO is for the best .. Im all for trading down and maximizing picks |
Besides, now we can plan to lose all our games next year and get him!  |
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| This may turn out to be a really unwise thing financially. I'm confident that the next CBA is going to include a rookie wage scale. If draft time comes and there is still no CBA in place, this could be the last time a kid has the chance to cash in on the big money. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Deadskins wrote: | | This may turn out to be a really unwise thing financially. I'm confident that the next CBA is going to include a rookie wage scale. If draft time comes and there is still no CBA in place, this could be the last time a kid has the chance to cash in on the big money. |
True, but he has no safe options right now. He could declare and then the draft and season could be canceled |
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | This may turn out to be a really unwise thing financially. I'm confident that the next CBA is going to include a rookie wage scale. If draft time comes and there is still no CBA in place, this could be the last time a kid has the chance to cash in on the big money. |
True, but he has no safe options right now. He could declare and then the draft and season could be canceled |
I doubt the draft gets cancelled. A lockout wouldn't occur until August at the earliest, and the owners wouldn't want to tip their hand in April. Either way, it's a gamble on his part. He could complete his education in any event. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| Deadskins wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | This may turn out to be a really unwise thing financially. I'm confident that the next CBA is going to include a rookie wage scale. If draft time comes and there is still no CBA in place, this could be the last time a kid has the chance to cash in on the big money. |
True, but he has no safe options right now. He could declare and then the draft and season could be canceled |
I doubt the draft gets cancelled. A lockout wouldn't occur until August at the earliest, and the owners wouldn't want to tip their hand in April. Either way, it's a gamble on his part. He could complete his education in any event. |
I thought they were targeting lockout earlier. Anyway, if he comes out they have the draft and then gets locked out it's not that different. I suppose he has his signing bonus, but he'd still sit out a year. Not a good thing when you're 22. |
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CanesSkins26
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | This may turn out to be a really unwise thing financially. I'm confident that the next CBA is going to include a rookie wage scale. If draft time comes and there is still no CBA in place, this could be the last time a kid has the chance to cash in on the big money. |
True, but he has no safe options right now. He could declare and then the draft and season could be canceled |
I doubt the draft gets cancelled. A lockout wouldn't occur until August at the earliest, and the owners wouldn't want to tip their hand in April. Either way, it's a gamble on his part. He could complete his education in any event. |
I thought they were targeting lockout earlier. Anyway, if he comes out they have the draft and then gets locked out it's not that different. I suppose he has his signing bonus, but he'd still sit out a year. Not a good thing when you're 22. |
True. But, all it takes is one bad hit in a game next season and his career could be over. Or Harbaugh takes an NFL job and the team tanks and Luck's numbers drop. There are so many variables at play. But the bottom line is that Luck basically just walked away from over $50 million guaranteed. Even if he plays better than he did this year, a rookie wage scale or salary cap is highly likely in the next CBA so it is highly likely that he wont be able to match or top the money that would have made this year. I know that he's a smart kid and even if football falls through could make a lot of money working a real job, but it is a HUGE gamble to leave this much money on the table.
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Countertrey
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | This may turn out to be a really unwise thing financially. I'm confident that the next CBA is going to include a rookie wage scale. If draft time comes and there is still no CBA in place, this could be the last time a kid has the chance to cash in on the big money. |
True, but he has no safe options right now. He could declare and then the draft and season could be canceled |
And, he could finish school, and get his degree, and still be picked in the first round next year, even if he doesn't play.
OTOH, if there IS a draft... and if there IS a CBA that goes into effect in the fall... he may stand to lose muti-millions, due to the strong possibility that there will be a very restrictive rookie cap in 2012. I've heard figures as high as $50 Million as the potential cost of NOT declaring for this year if that happens.
I would think that declaring would be a no-brainer. |
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Countertrey
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | This may turn out to be a really unwise thing financially. I'm confident that the next CBA is going to include a rookie wage scale. If draft time comes and there is still no CBA in place, this could be the last time a kid has the chance to cash in on the big money. |
True, but he has no safe options right now. He could declare and then the draft and season could be canceled |
I doubt the draft gets cancelled. A lockout wouldn't occur until August at the earliest, and the owners wouldn't want to tip their hand in April. Either way, it's a gamble on his part. He could complete his education in any event. |
I thought they were targeting lockout earlier. Anyway, if he comes out they have the draft and then gets locked out it's not that different. I suppose he has his signing bonus, but he'd still sit out a year. Not a good thing when you're 22. |
Yeah... I could see how he'd just be sick to death over having nothing to show for a year other than a lousy multimillion dollar signing bonus... |
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everydayAskinsday
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| even though its rare it is possible that hes not it in for the money and his degree seems to be very important to him which i applaud.. He will get his money regardless and while it might not be the ridiculous sum that rookies have been getting lately Im sure it will be more then enough and that barring injury and lack of ability at the NFL level he will eventually secure a very nice pay day |
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Irn-Bru
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| What a moron. I value education as much as anyone else, but this guy has no sense of long-term planning if he thinks it's not a good idea to enter the draft this year. |
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