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skins2357
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: 2nd Round Gems Reply with quote

Everyone talks about drafting the BPA at 10, which would likely be Jones. But what some dont realize, is how incredibly deep this years draft is. If we could trade back once or numerous times to acquire as many 2nd-3rd rounders as possible, I think it would be the ideal situation. Below are 2nd rounders who fill a position of need (in order IMO) with their mock round in parentheses:

OLB -Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona (2nd) Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA (2nd) Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Texas (2nd) Jeremy Beal, DE/OLB, Oklahoma (4th-6th)

OG - Marcus Cannon, G, TCU (2nd) Rodney Hudson, G/C, Florida State (2nd) Danny Watkins, G, Baylor (2nd) Stephen Wiesnewski, G/C, Penn State (2nd)

NT - Kenrick Ellis, NT, Hampton (2nd-3rd) Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole Miss (2nd-3rd) Anthony Gray, NT, Southern Miss (4th-6th) Blaine Sumner, Colorado School of Mines, (5th - UDFA) - *MANCRUSH*

QB - Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State (1st-2nd) Jake Locker, QB, Washington (1st-2nd) Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada (2nd) Andy Dalton, QB, TCU (2nd) Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas (2nd)

DE - Muhammed Wilkerson, DE/DT, Temple (2nd) Cameron Heyward, DE/DT (2nd)Christian Ballard, DE/DT, Iowa (2nd) Stephen Paea, DE/NT, Oregon State (2nd)

WR - Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh (2nd) Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami (2nd) Titus Young, WR, Boise State )3rd)


Lets say we moved down a couple times and picked up 2 2nds...if we could come out the draft with QB Locker, OLB Acho and OG Hudson followed by Sumner in the late rounds I would be STOOOOOOOOKED!

Blaine Sumner is my sleeper and MANCRUSH, he is huge (6-2,340) and rediculously strong (52 reps @ 225, 805lb squat). He has the size and strength you need at the NT position, and many dont even have him ranked in the top 10 at NT. I think he could be a late round/UDFA steal. And best news is he wears #92 meaning we would have to free up the number Shocked

He holds the 2010 Raw Squat American Record (805 pounds). Check out the vid:

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TCIYM
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half of these players are 3rd or 4th round prospects. I really prefer not to see the Redskins over-reaching just because they lack 3rd and 4th round picks.
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope their not. I checked against 2 mocks and a prospect tracker. The ones that are 3rd rounder or higher are stated as such
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they would love to trade back this year, but that's easier said than done.
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bla bla bla! Very Happy


In the second round the Redskins select Jake Locker.
My intuition says Mikes Ego believes he can coach Locker up. Who is to doubt him? I have a strong suspicion our QB next year will be Jake Locker.
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be right Hero but if MS really likes Locker he's grabbing him with his first pick
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lockers so tough to figure out. I have heard experts saying he is not getting past Minn in the 1st round, but then have seen other experts say he could go late 1st or early 2nd round. It seems that noone knows where this kid is going to get drafted. I would LOVE him in the 2nd, not so much at 10.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HEROHAMO wrote:
Bla bla bla! Very Happy


In the second round the Redskins select Jake Locker.
My intuition says Mikes Ego believes he can coach Locker up. Who is to doubt him? I have a strong suspicion our QB next year will be Jake Locker.


I agree that there is a decent chance that Locker is our next qb. However, if he is, it's because we took him in the first, not the second round.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to see them trade back and pick up another 2nd round. my only acception as if Robert Quinn falls to 10 I dont think we can pass him up. But i'd love to see us go Phil Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, Stephen Paea, Torrey Smith, Rodney Hudson work it out see who falls but 3 out of those 5 are some quality holes filled
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have to agree - IF Mike wants Locker, he's taking him

IF we have to use the #10 pick, that player has to be a VERY big help here


we have so many needs and need to have a long term plan to really turn this franchise around - for too many years we have tried to improve for the short term wih hopes that things would work out welll for the long term - NOT HAPPENING - we need to make a long term plan and then stick with it

IF the future great QB is there we need to get him, then help prepare him and give him as much time as it takes - most QBs coming out of college need time to get ready

we need to replace almost everyone on the offensive line - that should give fans a clue as to how long it is going to take before we can have a decent offense

the same can be said of getting the players in here to play the 3-4 decently - it's not happening in one season - DUH


this FO might not have a lot of time because Snyder does not seem to me to be very patient - I just hope they realize the big mistakes they made last year by bringing in players that did not 'fit' and switching defensive schemes without the right players to execute it and ... and ... Rolling Eyes

these guys need to do a huge turnaround and just start the long process of replacing most of this roster with players that can do what we need to get done
we need players and coaches that will develop into a proper NFL team again over a period of time - the short term stuff is not working


this franchise has been hand-cuffed by bad management for over 10 years - we need to change that first
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Jake Locker but he needs a year or two before he's ready to play. Someone mentioned that his accuracy can be closely associated with his footwork. He has more of a baseball stance when he throws which is the downside of his coaches at UW.
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankcal20 wrote:
I like Jake Locker but he needs a year or two before he's ready to play. Someone mentioned that his accuracy can be closely associated with his footwork. He has more of a baseball stance when he throws which is the downside of his coaches at UW.
that could make sense since he was a stud baseball player too, maybe his poor coaching at UW didnt pick up on that?
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year as the draft got closer, some of the "experts" figured out that Mike wanted Trent Williams and they were right. Have some of the "experts" got Mike right again as we near the the draft? Locker at #10? If we believe that Mike is thinking long range like with his switching to a 3-4 last year, this rumor might carry some strong weight.
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After Locker's strong workouts, I started thinking that he could be back on Shanahan's radar... I believe that Shanahan will attempt to trade from the 10 spot, add another pick, and take Locker later in the first, but if he can't, I will not be surprised to see Locker's name posted at 10.
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