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Re: RGIII the FUTURE of B&G!

Postby DarthMonk » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:03 am

cowboykillerzRED wrote:Mods feel free to delete or move this but with the Flynn and 2nd tier threads the first round prediction etc etc I feel like Robert Griffin the third deserves his own.


I got no problem and love the guy but this is at least the 3rd thread named RGIII. 8)

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Postby PAPDOG67 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:00 am

I say go get him. The big question is will we have to move all the way up to # 2 to get him. I don't think St.Louis will be drafting him, for obvious resasons, they have Bradord. If they get no other offers, they will have to go elsewhere. We will most likely have to leap-frog CLE and jump into the # 3 pick, but the drop off in what we would have to give up is huge between the 2nd & 3rd pick. #2 pick probably cost us 2 1's, a 2 and a 4. 3rd pick probably cost us just 2 1's.

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Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:18 am

Its a gamble not going in and getting the number two spot.. Any team who wants him could give st Louis picks and or players and wed be looking pretty dumb @ #3.
Of course we could always sign someone they would want in FA or trade someone we have as to save some picks. That's a tough thought. I hate to think my boy Cooooooley could be in that discussion. Big Fred and Logan as 1 & 2 wouldn't be hard for this staff to run with that's for sure
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Postby DarthMonk » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:02 am

Here is a new scouting report I enjoyed reading:

Robert Griffin Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
Great arm strength
Quick release
Accurate thrower
Smart; protects the football
Good field vision
Extremely mobile with scrambling ability
Very intelligent
Proven leader; passion for the game
Winner at collegiate level
Experienced 3-year starter
Clutch performer who plays at his best in crunch time
Good teammate without an ego
Plays with swagger
Opens up mismatches for teammates with dual-threat nature
High-character individual

Weaknesses:
Height is a touch short
Could use some more bulk to handle hitting
Rarely played against a top defense
Did not play in a pro-stye offense
Rarely took snaps from under center

Summary: Griffin was the most dangerous playmaker in college football in 2011. He did the most with the least and led his team to wins against programs the school could never compete with in past years. Despite a horrible defense and suspect offensive line, Griffin lit up scoreboards on a weekly basis. Griffin completed 72 percent of his passes for 4,293 yards with 37 touchdowns and six interceptions in 2011. He has also rushed for 699 yards and 10 touchdowns. Griffin won the Heisman Trophy for his dominant season.

Over his collegiate years, Griffin has been a consistent performer who has shown steady improvement. In 2008, Griffin started playing as a freshman. He completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,091 yards with 15 touchdowns and three interceptions. That season he ran for 1,118 yards and 13 touchdowns. He lost almost all of the 2009 season to injury. The year after, he had a completion percentage of 67 percent for 3,501 yards and 22 touchdowns with eight interceptions. He ran for 808 yards and eight scores.

Griffin has a strong arm, and his accuracy on throws deep downfield is truly remarkable. To all levels of the field, Griffin is extremely accurate throwing the ball. He can fire ropes on deep outs, all while making good decisions in the process.

Griffin is a fantastic athlete with speed to burn. He is a track competitor; when he breaks into the open field, he rips off yards in an instant. This season, Griffin also showed the grit to take some big hits and stay in the game.

Griffin is also a high-character individual who is very intelligent. He has the makings of a franchise quarterback on and off the field. Griffin has the toughness to be successful, but will have to be developed some at the NFL level, and learn how to operate a pro style offense. There isn't a competitor with Griffin to be the second quarterback behind Andrew Luck.

Player Comparison: Steve McNair. Griffin's foot speed and running ability is similar to Eagles' quarterback Michael Vick, but Griffin is a much better passer than Vick, and that makes the comparison closer to McNair. Over a long NFL career, McNair was an accurate pocket passer who could make big plays with feet. Griffin has the same skill set where he can sit in the pocket and beat teams with his arm, or he can take off and make a splash play on the ground. Like McNair, Griffin is 6-foot-2 and has enough height to play the position. McNair was taken with the third-overall pick and Griffin is likely to go in the top five of the 2012 NFL Draft.

Projecting Griffin to the pros, however, I see a player with the ability to be a player like McNair.

NFL Matches: Indianapolis, Cleveland, Washington, Miami

The Colts could decide that they like Griffin more than Luck, but that seems extremely remote. After the Colts, the next quarterback-needy team is the Cleveland Browns. It seems unlikely that Griffin will get past the fourth pick. He very easily could go second or third if the Redskins or Dolphins trade up in order to land the Heisman winner.
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Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:51 am

Good ish!

Aw mods Hogs wash gets the most love it seems fitting he get his own thread vs adding to this one and... Meh they all mention him anyway I guess
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Postby RayNAustin » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:49 pm

cowboykillerzRED wrote:Its a gamble not going in and getting the number two spot.. Any team who wants him could give st Louis picks and or players and wed be looking pretty dumb @ #3.
Of course we could always sign someone they would want in FA or trade someone we have as to save some picks. That's a tough thought. I hate to think my boy Cooooooley could be in that discussion. Big Fred and Logan as 1 & 2 wouldn't be hard for this staff to run with that's for sure


You better believe it .... somebody is going to go after that #2 pick, and nobody really knows who Indy will take when the clock starts ... they could take Luck or RG3, so, with several other teams needing a QB - Hawks, Browns, Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals, Vikings, Chiefs ... none of these teams have the position totally settled, though some are unlikely to trade up to take the 2nd QB. Certainly Seattle is possible ... the Browns ... and the Jets !! There is a lot of grumbling in the locker room over Sanchez ... and we know how impatient NY fans are .. and how aggressive and unpredictable Rex Ryan is.

For a couple of One's ? I wouldn't rule out anyone .... any more that 2 #1's and that field might narrow some ... but you just can't expect that someone won't leapfrog you into the #2 position and snatch that 1 remaining top 10 QB, because there is no one else there that justifies a high #1 pick.

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Postby skinsfan#33 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:53 pm

[quote="tribeofjudah"]Does RG3 live up to the likes of:

1. Randall Cunningham
2. Mike Vick
3. D Mac
4. Doug Williams
5. Charlie Batch

who else? I know I'm missing several good ones

Yes, all black QBs who have found success in the NFL......[/quote]

My gut instinct is he will be better than all on that list.

Randall was a very good runner, but not very accurate.
Vick is the best of the group, Great runner, not very accurate (his accuracy is improving)
DMac, scatter armed. Good runner, extremely erratic passer.
D Williams. Seriously, one 1/4, no matter how great, doesn't make you a good QB.
Batch. Not even worth a comment.
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Postby Kilmer72 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:56 pm

Maybe I am just dreaming but a friend of mine through work, who happened to be a QB for VA Tech; tells me RG3 is the real thing and should be better than Luck in the long run.

If you get a guy like him who will revolutionize the QB position, you can only set yourself up with something that will take time for opposing defenses to game plan.

I see lots of wins with this scenario.

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Postby SkinsJock » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:29 am

Kilmer72 wrote:Maybe I am just dreaming a friend of mine ... tells me RG3 is the real thing and should be better than Luck in the long run
If you get a guy like him who will revolutionize the QB position, you can only set yourself up with something that will take time for opposing defenses to game plan.
I see lots of wins with this scenario.


You are dreaming :roll:

IF we get lot's of wins in the next 10 years and we have RGIII as the QB - MOST of those wins will NOT be due to RGIII

players (and coaches) playing together as a team with desire and attitude do more to determine the outcome of a game
1 great QB doesn't guarantee "a lot of wins" - a good team wins games because they prepare, practice and play together

and I love it when fans think that a player is going to "revolutionize" how to play in the NFL
can you imagine a kid coming into the NFL with an idea that he's going to play the game his way - because he's a gift :lol:
Getting our QB back will help a lot but we still have a lot of issues to address

Players and coaches need to believe that they can be successful - they are not playing with that attitude - big changes are coming

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Postby CanesSkins26 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:27 am

and I love it when fans think that a player is going to "revolutionize" how to play in the NFL
can you imagine a kid coming into the NFL with an idea that he's going to play the game his way - because he's a gift


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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:57 am

SkinsJock wrote:and I love it when fans think that a player is going to "revolutionize" how to play in the NFL
can you imagine a kid coming into the NFL with an idea that he's going to play the game his way - because he's a gift :lol:


The media called Cam a bust before he was even drafted. They said he wasn't worth that high of a pick. He wouldn't make it in the NFL.


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Postby tribeofjudah » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:45 pm

Some have speculated that we will Trade UP to #2 with Rams and .....

TAKE RGIII at #2


Pick 6 - Washington Redskins

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Notes: By April Washington will be trading up with St. Louis to make this pick.






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Postby skinsfan#33 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:26 pm

tribeofjudah wrote:Some have speculated that we will Trade UP to #2 with Rams and .....

TAKE RGIII at #2


Pick 6 - Washington Redskins

Robert Griffin III QB Baylor

Notes: By April Washington will be trading up with St. Louis to make this pick.





If Cleveland wants RG3 there is nothing we can do about it. They have the #4 spot and the #22 (or is it 23), but whatever, they have way more ammo than we do. So if they really want him they will get him.

The Rams could trades with the Browns get any plater they want (probably Blackmon and get another pick in this year's draft. I don't think the Browns will do it though. They have a serviceable QB and a ton of needs! I doubt they will draft up and my guy says its only about 50/50 if they will take him if he is there.

Either way if im the Skins I don't trade up any higher than #3. There just isn't any reason too. Seatle and Miami don't have the juice to get to #2. The Jags could, but won't after spending a first AND a second on Gabbert last year. However the interesting spot for is to trade up to would be #4. The Brown decide they are going to pass on RG3 and offer us the pick knowing they can get the player they want at #6. We move to #4 to protect teams from leap frogging us to #4 or #5. The Browns pick up our third this year in addition to our #6.
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Postby Countertrey » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:15 am

Sorry... I just don't see the Browns "passing" on RGIII. McCoy MAY turn into a franchise Quarterback, but that's pretty iffy... If Griffin is there at 4, they take him.
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Postby GoSkins » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:31 pm

Countertrey wrote:Sorry... I just don't see the Browns "passing" on RGIII. McCoy MAY turn into a franchise Quarterback, but that's pretty iffy... If Griffin is there at 4, they take him.


You're probably right. So that's why I hope Shanny trades up with St. Louis.

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