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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Kiper has Skins taking Morris Claiborne in his first mock Reply with quote

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

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Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.

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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Kiper has Skins taking Morris Claiborne in his first moc Reply with quote

ArlingtonSkinsFan wrote:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year

http://thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=565319#565319
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Kiper has Skins taking Morris Claiborne in his first moc Reply with quote

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ArlingtonSkinsFan wrote:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year

http://thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=565319#565319


Yes, the General Manager Forum is the place to talk about mock drafts. Please keep the discussion there, everyone.

Thank you.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get to worked up abpit Mel Kipers Mock draft. He got only about 10% right last year.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't crush that pick, but we need starters at SS and FS more on D, but that is too early to take one of those. And of course on offense we need a WR (too early to take one at #6 - especially if Blackmon is gone), QB (too early to take a QB not named Luck or RG3), RT (or LT if we move TW to RT), LG ( a little early for OG, but I would be OK with it) and C (too early – and we have an adequate starter).

So it looks like the pick should be the best available OL, but the best defensive player (supposedly) wouldn’t be too bad.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry I don't know what people see in Mongomery at the C position. I've heard a lot of people on hear say they're happy with his play and that he's above average. The guy, to me is a career back up and we better be looking to upgrade the C position this off season either in the draft or via FA.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAPDOG67 wrote:
I'm sorry I don't know what people see in Mongomery at the C position. I've heard a lot of people on hear say they're happy with his play and that he's above average. The guy, to me is a career back up and we better be looking to upgrade the C position this off season either in the draft or via FA.


I think he is adequate. We definitely could do better and we definitely could do worse.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tribeofjudah wrote:
Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Quote:
Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.



WAY too early to take a WR! Especially one not named Blackmon (too early for him too, but he will probably be gone).

AND it is definitely too early to take a WR with an alcohol abuse problem! A DUI and two under age drinking citations... WOW!
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if we take a CB with the #6 or 7 pick or whatever it is, i'm done with the Redskins after 32 years of being a fan. give me a break.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tribeofjudah wrote:
Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Quote:
Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.



I could see Floyd jumping if he runs well at the combine. He's a huge target he just needs to prove he can separate. Even if he can't, he could have success just making plays on the ball and running good routes, i.e. Hakeem Nicks. Hopefully he can curtail the drinking.

That situation could get really interesting with people rising and falling, who we end up with if we stay at six. If Floyds in the equation, you have to weigh him against Riley Reiff, who looks like a pretty solid OT, and Claiborne. I'm sure others will sneak into the equation as well. I wouldn't be surprised if WR is addressed in FA just because it's a good year for them. And this draft seems to have some line depth.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brad7686 wrote:
tribeofjudah wrote:
Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Quote:
Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.



I could see Floyd jumping if he runs well at the combine. He's a huge target he just needs to prove he can separate. Even if he can't, he could have success just making plays on the ball and running good routes, i.e. Hakeem Nicks. Hopefully he can curtail the drinking.

That situation could get really interesting with people rising and falling, who we end up with if we stay at six. If Floyds in the equation, you have to weigh him against Riley Reiff, who looks like a pretty solid OT, and Claiborne. I'm sure others will sneak into the equation as well. I wouldn't be surprised if WR is addressed in FA just because it's a good year for them. And this draft seems to have some line depth.


To me it is just too high for a WR, especially a WR that shows signs of being an alcoholic!
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinsfan#33 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
tribeofjudah wrote:
Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Quote:
Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.



I could see Floyd jumping if he runs well at the combine. He's a huge target he just needs to prove he can separate. Even if he can't, he could have success just making plays on the ball and running good routes, i.e. Hakeem Nicks. Hopefully he can curtail the drinking.

That situation could get really interesting with people rising and falling, who we end up with if we stay at six. If Floyds in the equation, you have to weigh him against Riley Reiff, who looks like a pretty solid OT, and Claiborne. I'm sure others will sneak into the equation as well. I wouldn't be surprised if WR is addressed in FA just because it's a good year for them. And this draft seems to have some line depth.


To me it is just too high for a WR, especially a WR that shows signs of being an alcoholic!


I know what you're saying, historically there's a pattern of busting, however lately it seems you can't get a good receiver unless they're a top ten pick. I'm not really sure Floyd will be worth a top ten pick, he'll have to impress to get to that point.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinsfan#33 wrote:
PAPDOG67 wrote:
I'm sorry I don't know what people see in Mongomery at the C position. I've heard a lot of people on hear say they're happy with his play and that he's above average. The guy, to me is a career back up and we better be looking to upgrade the C position this off season either in the draft or via FA.


I think he is adequate. We definitely could do better and we definitely could do worse.
Yup. While an upgrade would be nice, it's certainly far from being a priority. Montgomery is doing an adequate job, and has certainly exceeded expectations.

Sometimes, good enough is just good enough... (see Jeff Bostic)
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't see this FO taking a WR or RB with a top 10 pick
We are not exactly a player or two away from having the luxury of fine tuning - which is what those positions are


I really think that we'll see these guys trade down - there are teams that will want a player badly enough at the #6 spot
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