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jmooney
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unfortunately, what he's worth to this team and what this team can afford to pay him are 2 different things. The cap penalty may not be holding it up entirely, but its a major issue.
Its not holding it up on the agents/players end. I'm sure it is for the Redskins. |
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SkinsJock
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Fletcher is playing here this year
not having an agent is a bigger problem than the cap space
he's going to get the money - he's not going to get the years |
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The Hogster
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This arbitration hearing is holding this up. He should get a 2-3 year deal that is basically a series of 1 year deals.
If I'm the Skins, I give him around $5M per year guaranteed with some escalators for (i) leading the league in tackles, (ii) making the Pro Bowl, and (iii) the defense finishing in the Top 5.
Total deal would look like 3 Years $25M but be more like 3 Years $15M |
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jmooney
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He has no agent?
I know he fired one but, I assumed he picked up another.
Yeah, no wonder its taking a while. |
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The Hogster
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| jmooney wrote: | He has no agent?
I know he fired one but, I assumed he picked up another.
Yeah, no wonder its taking a while. |
I guess since he's had something like 5-6 contracts in his career, he feels he doesn't need one. He's probably right as long as he hires an attorney with knowledge of the NFL to review it. This should be a pretty straightforward deal for him.
Guarantees for skill and/or injury & determining his Likely To Be Earned and Unlikely To Be Earned Incentives should be the only real points of contention.
If I'm the Skins, I'm only guaranteeing him for Skill. Not Injury at his age. And, I'd tie some of his incentive based money to the overall performance of the Defense. Everyone knows he's a tackling machine. I want to see him lead this defense to the Top 5. |
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patjam77
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44diesel
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Please say it is so!  |
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cowboykillerzRGiii
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patjam77
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Get the F outta here... You mean I scooped some of these hardcore pimps on this board??? MY FIRST SCOOP! Whoohoo!  |
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Irn-Bru
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| patjam77 wrote: | | Get the F outta here... You mean I scooped some of these hardcore pimps on this board??? MY FIRST SCOOP! Whoohoo! |
The tweet was premature; no deal's been done yet. Take a look at Hugh Douglass' later posts. |
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patjam77
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Aww snap. I've been unscooped!!
My bad peeps. |
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1niksder
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| Irn-Bru wrote: | | patjam77 wrote: | | Get the F outta here... You mean I scooped some of these hardcore pimps on this board??? MY FIRST SCOOP! Whoohoo! |
The tweet was premature; no deal's been done yet. Take a look at Hugh Douglass' later posts. |
@LFletcher59
Just saw what @Bighugh53 said, never told him I signed a new deal! I'll be the 1st to report my signing! |
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Irn-Bru
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| patjam77 wrote: | Aww snap. I've been unscooped!!
My bad peeps. |
Not a problem . . . we are all dying to know when that deal will get done. I nearly reported that tweet myself when I saw it. |
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1niksder
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| The Hogster wrote: | | jmooney wrote: | He has no agent?
I know he fired one but, I assumed he picked up another.
Yeah, no wonder its taking a while. |
I guess since he's had something like 5-6 contracts in his career, he feels he doesn't need one. He's probably right as long as he hires an attorney with knowledge of the NFL to review it. This should be a pretty straightforward deal for him.
Guarantees for skill and/or injury & determining his Likely To Be Earned and Unlikely To Be Earned Incentives should be the only real points of contention.
If I'm the Skins, I'm only guaranteeing him for Skill. Not Injury at his age. And, I'd tie some of his incentive based money to the overall performance of the Defense. Everyone knows he's a tackling machine. I want to see him lead this defense to the Top 5. |
Actually he fired Drew Rosenhaus and hired agent Ben Dogra from CAA. |
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1niksder
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| Also heard Fletch and the Skins are almost $2M apart in their talks |
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