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DarthMonk
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
You forgot to stick Bell in there, DM.


Did he sign? When?

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notwithstanding my temptation to get into advanced statistics, let me sound outright unsophisticated and blunt:

We need a Right Tackle to replace Brown and a Guard would be great too.

We will be much better off with at least insurance about the injury-prone Brown. He might become a good backup at this stage of his career who can give us a few good games but not a whole season at all.

In an ideal world, I would have wanted to pick a legitimate Left Tackle and move Williams to Right Tackle. But being what it is with so few lower picks left and the unfair cap hit imposed by the NFL, I do not see how that could be accomplished now. Crying or Very sad
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarthMonk wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
You forgot to stick Bell in there, DM.


Did he sign? When?

DarthMonk


Embarassed That's the second post I've misread.

I should probably check to make sure that wasn't Irish coffee I had this morning . . .
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still No OL Help... Why?

.. because we're getting a QB who will run for his life and throw a 50 yard pass to the waiter and get a TD

Cool
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarthMonk wrote:
Hey SF33:

This should probably be in a PM but when I posted that yac stat and you told me that list was a year old ... Embarassed

I also noticed this isn't the first time we've "butted heads." We're good, right? Let's not stop when we disagree.

Speaking of OL. I can't believe we will stand pat. I would think/hope we'll have 2-4 new guys under 25 by the time we get down to 53. I think this is our current depth chart:
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LT Williams, McCaskill
LG Licht, Hurt
C Monty, Cook
RG Chester
RT Brown, Smith, Polumbus

I think 4 of these guys were drafted by the 49ers!

Who's in trouble?

DarthMonk


We're good! I hate coming off as a know it all and then being proven that I don't. I still think a 100 min is ridiculous, but I should have noticed it.

I agree with you and RIC on the OL. I can't sew how we can go into the season w/o adding a RT and preferably a LG too. I think Cory L would be a fantastic #6 OL. A backup to all of the interior OL. He should at least be challenged for his starting spot.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I question this also, but I hold in my heart that Shanahan wants to draft OL -- of course now we don't have a pick until the 3rd to use on an OL.

We 100% need an upgrade at RT and OG (ideally at both OG positions). We also need added depth at Tackle and G. If they don't address this it won't matter who is under center.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markshark84 wrote:
I question this also, but I hold in my heart that Shanahan wants to draft OL -- of course now we don't have a pick until the 3rd to use on an OL.

We 100% need an upgrade at RT and OG (ideally at both OG positions). We also need added depth at Tackle and G. If they don't address this it won't matter who is under center.


It is funny, the only thing good that came out of last year's injury riddled season was the fact that our backups got some game time and finished pretty well.

I would live to add Cory L to that group of backups.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that any trust we have in Williams is misplaced. Character issues count.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazyhorse1 wrote:
I think that any trust we have in Williams is misplaced. Character issues count.


The Redskins are in a cap bind and Trent Williams can free up $7M in space this year. The Redskins only need to restructure his contract and add a few years to it.

The Redskins would have normally already done this, so someone must have been smoking dope Shocked Smile
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1niksder wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
I think that any trust we have in Williams is misplaced. Character issues count.


The Redskins are in a cap bind and Trent Williams can free up $7M in space this year. The Redskins only need to restructure his contract and add a few years to it.

The Redskins would have normally already done this, so someone must have been smoking dope Shocked Smile


you couldn't have chosen another means of attack? you know how offended Trent and Fred are right now??? Wink
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would either be offended? It wasn't Bruce Allen that came back positive X2
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Countertrey wrote:
Why would either be offended? It wasn't Bruce Allen that came back positive X2


And both will make more than $5M this season Surprised
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on prior history, by week 5 we'll have 1-2 injuries on our OL.

We'll then be fielding a starting OL equivalent of McCaskill, Hurt, Montgomery, Chester, and Williams....and people will be wondering why our offense is totally inept.....

Based on past history, we have typically had anywhere from 1-4 injuries to our OL per season. Right now we only have 3 true OL starters and 3 quality backups. That means we need 2 quality starters and 1 quality in order to have an adequate line for next year after taking into account potential injuries.

Yet, nothing has been done. And if our FO decides to not address the OL issues, get ready for another 6-10 season....
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markshark84 wrote:
Based on prior history, by week 5 we'll have 1-2 injuries on our OL.

We'll then be fielding a starting OL equivalent of McCaskill, Hurt, Montgomery, Chester, and Williams....and people will be wondering why our offense is totally inept.....

Based on past history, we have typically had anywhere from 1-4 injuries to our OL per season. Right now we only have 3 true OL starters and 3 quality backups. That means we need 2 quality starters and 1 quality in order to have an adequate line for next year after taking into account potential injuries.

Yet, nothing has been done. And if our FO decides to not address the OL issues, get ready for another 6-10 season....


Its a great point. Shanahan has certainly used injuries as an excuse for not winning more games last year. If they don't address the lack of depth somehow this season, its a huge mistake.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we sign an under rated offensive line man closer to draft day and.maybe draft a back up in round three unless baylors center is there. This front office is doing more to build this team young and fast then I have ever see
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