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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | | Red_One43 wrote: | This is and isn't my biggest concern with RGIII: Kyle!!!
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The above was my first thought but as for RGIII himself:
He needs to know when to be daring. That's probably not in the 1st qtr. of the 1st game when he can take a risk and give us 2nd and 2 instead of 2nd and 8 near midfield. He might need to be lucky early until he learns when to be daring.
Vick still doesn't know.
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These remain my two biggest concerns right now - Kyle's dangerous play calling and RGIII's daring. I think Kyle could solve both with a little less exuberance with the option play.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Tweeter wrote: |
Among QBs with 200+ attempts, RGIII's 3 INTs are tied for fewest in NFL with Tom Brady
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Dude needs to cut down on the picks!
| DarthMonk wrote: | Under Kyle we have thrown 591 and then 605 passes. Yardage numbers are 3931 and 3773. TDs are 21 and 19.
My Predictions:
Griff will throw 600 times for 4,000 yards and 24 TDs. He will run for 400 yards and another 4 TDs.
He is an upgrade, isn't he?
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Current projections:
Passing:
ATT 466
YDS 3543
TDS 14
Rushing:
YDS 940
TDS 11
Now I'm thinking 500 passing attempts for 3700 yards and 15 TDs while running for 800 yards and 8 TDs. We have certainly emphasized Griff's running (Morris' as well). I think Griff is an excellent passer who just, as Lombardi said about Jurgensen, needs a little defense.
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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the implication that RG3 and Vick are 'similar' is way off
RG3 tries to involve his other players in ways to best help the offense while Vick tries to find ways in which he can best help the offense
2 very different QBs - IMO - 
are we ever lucky to have this kid playing QB for the Redskins ...
and this is just the first year .... |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | the implication that RG3 and Vick are 'similar' is way off
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Not directed at me, right? I've been a major expounder of the differences between them from before day 1.
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | | SkinsJock wrote: | the implication that RG3 and Vick are 'similar' is way off
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Not directed at me, right? I've been a major expounder of the differences between them from before day 1.
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NO ... Not at all ... Just clarifying ....
There are still Reports almost insinuating that RG3 is a running QB when the yards gained are more because of the game planning and taking what the defense gives than PRIMARILY having RG3 run the ball
Sorry it looked like that .... I do know you we're the first to point to the difference |
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crazyhorse1
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | DarthMonk wrote: | | SkinsJock wrote: | the implication that RG3 and Vick are 'similar' is way off
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Not directed at me, right? I've been a major expounder of the differences between them from before day 1.
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NO ... Not at all ... Just clarifying ....
There are still Reports almost insinuating that RG3 is a running QB when the yards gained are more because of the game planning and taking what the defense gives than PRIMARILY having RG3 run the ball
Sorry it looked like that .... I do know you we're the first to point to the difference |
RG3's biggest weakness seems to me to be long throws, but I'm not sure about that. We don't have anyone who seems to be able to run under the ball. The receiver's suck, which makes a big difference. The biggest problem with the offense, however, is that our defense won't let them on the field, and when they do go on, they know they have to score....The pressure's turned way up and its hard to get in a groove, especially when receivers drop balls or fail to get open. I think desperation is getting to RG3. He's human, and getting no real help from anyone except Morris, who's flagging in second halves because of overwork. |
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DarthMonk
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RG3's biggest weakness seems to me to be long throws, but I'm not sure about that. We don't have anyone who seems to be able to run under the ball. The receiver's suck, which makes a big difference. The biggest problem with the offense, however, is that our defense won't let them on the field, and when they do go on, they know they have to score....The pressure's turned way up and its hard to get in a groove, especially when receivers drop balls or fail to get open. I think desperation is getting to RG3. He's human, and getting no real help from anyone except Morris, who's flagging in second halves because of overwork. |
I've seen enough good deep balls to say it's not a weakness. It's relative though. I agree with everything else.
I'd say Griff has no athletic/physical weakness. The area in which he can improve most is on the mental side - and he seems to learn there rapidly.
He'll never be faster than he is now. He may gain a little strength. He figures to get a lot better at the mental aspects.
Will Kyle and Mike aid that or inhibit it? |
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Kilmer72
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| It's really hard to say where he could improve. He seems to learn from mistakes. He only has Moss and Morgan right now. I agree his deep balls are lacking but he needs help there. Hard to judge. |
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Redskinsfansince81
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He needs to be more careful when he runs. For example: not going airborn running up the middle. LOL
It was also be nice if Kyle didn't send him into pass routes to get rocked.
IF you're going to send him out for a pass tell the passer not to throw to him if he's covered. |
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I think he can improve in every single area - after all, he IS a rookie. But he already does most things better than any Redskins QB we've seen in the last 25 years (at least).
The NFC East should be very afraid. |
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| There have been another 4 or 5 plays today which have been serious "Wow" moments. Unbelievable athletic ability, pocket presence, accuracy. |
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welch
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As mentioned above, RG3 needs to improve his defense.
Otherwise, he is better than any Redskin QB that I have seen...except for Sonny (too young to remember Sammy except as a picture at the Queenstown barber shop) |
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RayNAustin
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He needs to be 15 of 15 and 5 TD passes, instead of this lame 14 of 15 and 4 TDs.  |
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crazyhorse1
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| welch wrote: | As mentioned above, RG3 needs to improve his defense.
Otherwise, he is better than any Redskin QB that I have seen...except for Sonny (too young to remember Sammy except as a picture at the Queenstown barber shop) |
I remember Sonny well. Started watching when Lebaron was playing. I don't know if RG3 is Sonny's equal as a passer, or superior. But Sonny couldn't run.
At any rate, if RG3 just stays as good as he is for ten years or so, he'll be a HOFer and probably the best player, not just better quarterback, than the Skins have ever had. I do think he'll put up better numbers than now...when some coach cuts him loose as a passer. We need to pass more.
I also think we're a better defense and a couple of great receivers away from a super bowl. Maybe Garcon is one; Davis won't be great, just good. We need a another receiver of true quality. Pull out the bucks, Danny. Now's the time. |
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Countertrey
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| crazyhorse1 wrote: | | welch wrote: | As mentioned above, RG3 needs to improve his defense.
Otherwise, he is better than any Redskin QB that I have seen...except for Sonny (too young to remember Sammy except as a picture at the Queenstown barber shop) |
I remember Sonny well. Started watching when Lebaron was playing. I don't know if RG3 is Sonny's equal as a passer, or superior. But Sonny couldn't run.
At any rate, if RG3 just stays as good as he is for ten years or so, he'll be a HOFer and probably the best player, not just better quarterback, than the Skins have ever had. I do think he'll put up better numbers than now...when some coach cuts him loose as a passer. We need to pass more.
I also think we're a better defense and a couple of great receivers away from a super bowl. Maybe Garcon is one; Davis won't be great, just good. We need a another receiver of true quality. Pull out the bucks, Danny. Now's the time. |
Ummm... did you forget? The league stole 32 mil in cap space... Danny was willing to spend, but couldn't... Of course, it looks like there will be some cap carryover, so, take that, Mara... |
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