Redskins taking a chance with Safeties

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Postby skinsfan#33 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:52 am

rskin72 wrote:At the Redskins 80th tour at Norfolk Naval Base, DHall and a couple of others had good things to say about Merriweather.


Were you at that tour stop? I'm a retired Senior Chief and did two ships company tours on a ship that NOB was it's homeport. Not to mention 16 total years in the Norfolk/VaBch area.

As far as the safeties go, they really don't have to be too good to improve on a gimpy Landry, OJ, and whomever else we trotted out there. If we get slightly above AVERAGE play from our safeties we have improved.
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Postby Countertrey » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:07 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:I'm a retired Senior Chief


You can always identify a Chief Petty Officer by the permanent bend in the right index finger... from holding a coffee cup.

True. :wink:
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Postby crazyhorse1 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:13 pm

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SkinsJock wrote:I do think that Raheem helps here and hopefully the play of the front 7 negates some of the issues with the secondary


what play of the front 7? You dont have a star pass rusher like a Ware or a Babin or a Tuck or Pierre-Paul.

You have a pair of "ok" pass rushers. And your defensive line can be run all over.


Hate to agree with a troll, but I do. RGIII is going to have to light up the scoreboard. We vastly overrate our defensive front seven and the secondary
is suspect. I think Minnifield is going to be a stud, however. I think the same thing about Royster on offense. I would like to believe in Helu and Hightower, but don't.

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Postby Deadskins » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:28 pm

Why would you do that? You could have just as easily made the same point without feeding the troll. ](*,)
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Postby DarthMonk » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:56 pm

SkinsJock wrote:I do think that Raheem helps here and hopefully the play of the front 7 negates some of the issues with the secondary


what play of the front 7? You dont have a star pass rusher like a Ware or a Babin or a Tuck or Pierre-Paul.


That would be the play hoped for here in the prior post:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But, the hope I have is that having Jenkins back brings such a boast to the front-7 that it negates the weaknesses on the back end.


:roll:

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Postby Countertrey » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:31 pm

Deadskins wrote:Why would you do that? You could have just as easily made the same point without feeding the troll. ](*,)


Thank you...
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Postby Countertrey » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:36 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I do think that Raheem helps here and hopefully the play of the front 7 negates some of the issues with the secondary


what play of the front 7? You dont have a star pass rusher like a Ware or a Babin or a Tuck or Pierre-Paul.


That would be the play hoped for here in the prior post:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But, the hope I have is that having Jenkins back brings such a boast to the front-7 that it negates the weaknesses on the back end.

:roll:
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Postby DarthMonk » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:42 pm

Countertrey wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I do think that Raheem helps here and hopefully the play of the front 7 negates some of the issues with the secondary


what play of the front 7? You dont have a star pass rusher like a Ware or a Babin or a Tuck or Pierre-Paul.


That would be the play hoped for here in the prior post:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But, the hope I have is that having Jenkins back brings such a boast to the front-7 that it negates the weaknesses on the back end.

:roll:
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Postby Deadskins » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:04 pm

Same thing. Food is food.
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Postby skinsfan#33 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:05 pm

Countertrey wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:I'm a retired Senior Chief


You can always identify a Chief Petty Officer by the permanent bend in the right index finger... from holding a coffee cup.

True. :wink:


I'm more of a lefty when it comes to coffee, but the same hold true :)
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Postby Countertrey » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:08 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I do think that Raheem helps here and hopefully the play of the front 7 negates some of the issues with the secondary


what play of the front 7? You dont have a star pass rusher like a Ware or a Babin or a Tuck or Pierre-Paul.


That would be the play hoped for here in the prior post:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But, the hope I have is that having Jenkins back brings such a boast to the front-7 that it negates the weaknesses on the back end.

:roll:
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Postby Countertrey » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:13 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:I'm a retired Senior Chief


You can always identify a Chief Petty Officer by the permanent bend in the right index finger... from holding a coffee cup.

True. :wink:


I'm more of a lefty when it comes to coffee, but the same hold true :)


I spent 27 years in the Army, but I first entered the Navy... 4 years as an enlisted airdale... one of the highlights was supergluing my division chief's coffee cup to his desk, and watching his reaction... (let's just say that he wasn't a strong leader!)
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Postby DarthMonk » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:39 pm

Countertrey wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I do think that Raheem helps here and hopefully the play of the front 7 negates some of the issues with the secondary


what play of the front 7? You dont have a star pass rusher like a Ware or a Babin or a Tuck or Pierre-Paul.


That would be the play hoped for here in the prior post:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But, the hope I have is that having Jenkins back brings such a boast to the front-7 that it negates the weaknesses on the back end.

:roll:
DarthMonk
:thump:
And, ya'll do so well for a while... then...


?

Note the quote. Going after part of a post and not the one who posted it.

DarthMonk
... so, are you saying the rolley eyes were for CLL? SkinsJock? Dude... don't pee on my head, and tell me it's raining. [-X
Perhaps you think she doesn't know whom you're responding to...

:wink:


Rolly eyes were for ignorant comment. This all seems like the real food.

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Postby rskin72 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:07 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
rskin72 wrote:At the Redskins 80th tour at Norfolk Naval Base, DHall and a couple of others had good things to say about Merriweather.


Were you at that tour stop? I'm a retired Senior Chief and did two ships company tours on a ship that NOB was it's homeport. Not to mention 16 total years in the Norfolk/VaBch area.

As far as the safeties go, they really don't have to be too good to improve on a gimpy Landry, OJ, and whomever else we trotted out there. If we get slightly above AVERAGE play from our safeties we have improved.


Sorry it took so long to get back with you but had a unexpected work trip to Pearl Harbor.....not a lot of spare time to do anything but work :wink:

Yes, I was at the NOB tour stop. I am a retired surface ETC....but I also grew up here in Tidewater (Norfolk/Virginia Beach).

And CounterTrey....I resemble that remark about how to identify a CPO !!! :D I used to get po'd when my guys would merely clean my coffee mug.......wash out all the taste!! Of course you left out the beer drinking qualifications that every old salty CPO had to have......

Back to the thread.....I heard Raheem Morris this afternoon on Redskins Nation.....never heard him really speak that much but was impressed by his passion and intensity. That type of leadership has been missing, I think, in the past.......hopefully he can coach as well as he can speak.....but he could make moreof a difference with this group than I had originally anticipated.
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Postby DarthMonk » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:55 pm

It seems our safeties have enourmous upside as well as huge bust potential. I'm not worried but I'm not real confident either.

Further improvement by the front 7 would go a long way. We were average there (front 7) last year. Elevating to top 12 or better would be nice. Better offense could help as well.

Just facts and reasonable hope, yes?

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