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skinpride1
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know hope this is not true on hank .


This is what mike had to say.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/wilson-hankerson-wont-be-at-full-speed-until-training-camp/2012/06/07/gJQARrnZLV_blog.html
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATX_Skins wrote:
Cooley has been banged up for a while

So that means he's a non-factor if he's healthy? Rolling Eyes
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Shanahan said Hankerson’s hip is fine, but that the Miami product still is working his way 'back into football shape.'” From the Wash Post link above.

I'm not worried.

LOL @ Cooley and Hank being non-factors when healthy.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hooligan wrote:
"Shanahan said Hankerson’s hip is fine, but that the Miami product still is working his way 'back into football shape.'” From the Wash Post link above.

I'm not worried.

LOL @ Cooley and Hank being non-factors when healthy.


I never said that last line... Hankerson however does fit that bill. Cooley will never be healthy enough again to play how he used to.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadskins wrote:
ATX_Skins wrote:
Cooley has been banged up for a while

So that means he's a non-factor if he's healthy? Rolling Eyes


Let me know when he's healthy...

Tired of the excuses, if Cooley this and Cooley that. Let's get serious here.
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skinpride1
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATX_Skins wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
ATX_Skins wrote:
Cooley has been banged up for a while

So that means he's a non-factor if he's healthy? Rolling Eyes


Let me know when he's healthy...

Tired of the excuses, if Cooley this and Cooley that. Let's get serious here.


Yep this is Cooley's last chance as a Redskin it's a make or break year for him.

Hope the knee holds up and that is where the "if" is coming in at. We are serious here.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinpride1 wrote:
ATX_Skins wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
ATX_Skins wrote:
Cooley has been banged up for a while

So that means he's a non-factor if he's healthy? Rolling Eyes


Let me know when he's healthy...

Tired of the excuses, if Cooley this and Cooley that. Let's get serious here.


Yep this is Cooley's last chance as a Redskin it's a make or break year for him.

Hope the knee holds up and that is where the "if" is coming in at. We are serious here.


If Cooley is even remotely productive I will be surprised.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATX_Skins wrote:
Cooley will never be healthy enough again to play how he used to.

Not sure how you can make this claim.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATX_Skins wrote:
If Cooley is even remotely productive I will be surprised.

Prepare to be surprised.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Cooley is healthy, he's arguably our most reliable receiver. Hank, as a rookie, put up a 100 yard game when fed the ball. If someone wants to question their durability and whether they're physically able to play to their potential, that's fine, but to write them off before camp is just silly.

These guys can both play ball, and I'm not going to be surprised if they both have big seasons.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention, none of us have any evidence that they're not. Camp hasn't even started yet and we haven't seen any game action. Last year, you could see that Cooley wasn't healthy. So I'll wait and see.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hooligan wrote:
If Cooley is healthy, he's arguably our most reliable receiver. Hank, as a rookie, put up a 100 yard game when fed the ball. If someone wants to question their durability and whether they're physically able to play to their potential, that's fine, but to write them off before camp is just silly.

These guys can both play ball, and I'm not going to be surprised if they both have big seasons.


yup! my thoughts exactly!
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, you guys can say whatever you want and I will obviously debate it, but I find both of these guys irrelevant with what we are doing.

Pull this thread up later if they somehow make a huge impact but I see them as non factors. Still.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Hankerson, hope was based more on potential than proven product. With Cooley, hope was to return to a proven, consistent state as TE. I think Cooley will be done in not necessarily because of injury, but because of cap related nonsense in conjunction with decline in performance whether injury or age related.

Personally, I would like to see Cooley return to form as a reliable outlet for RGIII. Would be a bit of a sad day if he gets released this season. HAnkerson doesn't have that fan base popularity (yet). Either way this works out, I think that TE and WR are both positions where there is a lot of quality competition.....if either is not on top of their game....or are still recuperating from injuries....think that there will be no shortage of others to take advantage of the opportunity.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue with Cooley is that if he isn't healthy, he's got a big contract number. Something of which the Redskins don't have a lot of and given his lack of production, it may be wise for the Redskins to restructure his contract to a more cap friendly number, give him a few more years and go from there. That way if you chose to trade him, it won't kill you.
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