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The Hogster
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: Final 53 Projections 2012 |
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With initial cut downs approaching, here is my prediction for the Final 53 Man Roster.
Quarterbacks
Robert Griffin III
Kirk Cousins
Rex Grossman
No surprise here. But, I actually think the storyline is that Kirk may wind up being the #2 with Rex Grossman being the mentor/emergency QB.
Running Backs
Tim Hightower
Roy Helu
Evan Royster
Darrel Young
Wide Receiver
Pierre Garcon
Leonard Hankerson
Santana Moss
Joshua Morgan
Dezmon Briscoe
Aldrick Robinson
Tight End
Fred Davis
Niles Paul
Chris Cooley
Logan Paulsen
I think this is Cooley's last hurrah. There is a possibility that Paulsen is released, but I think he's a necessity given his blocking ability and our situation at Right Tackle.
Offensive Line
Trent Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Will Montgomery, Chris Chester, Tyler Polumbus, Adam Gettis, Josh LeRibeus, Maurice Hurt, Tom Compton.
Jammal Brown to PUP List
Defensive Line
Adam Carriker, Barry Cofield, Stephen Bowen, Jarvis Jenkins, Chris Baker, Kedric Golston
Linebackers
London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander, Keenan Robinson, Rob Jackson.
Secondary
DeAngelo Hall, Josh Wilson, Cedric Griffin, Brandon Thompson, Richard Crawford, Tanard Jackson, Brandon Meriweather, Madieu Williams, DeJon Gomes, Reed Doughty
Special Teams
Neil Rackers, Sav Rocca, Nick Sundberg, Brandon Banks
I list Banks as a specialist rather than a WR. Although he will probably get some snaps on certain plays like last year.
Practice Squad
Alfred Morris
Lance Lewis
Jordan Bernstine
Grant Garner
Martinez (OL)
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DarthMonk
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Bob 0119
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| No Morris? Do you think they practice squad him? Me personally, I think they keep him over Helu. |
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skinpride1
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Think that we be close minus two or three places.
Im not so sure about Rackers at kicker. |
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skinpride1
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| The secondary is down right scary bad ....you got D.hall and merriweather and couple young talent on the up swing and the rest are junk. C. griffin at top of that list. |
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Red_One43
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:02 am Post subject: |
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^Great looking 53, only one surprise, you picked Rackers over Gano (Just Kidding  ). I like the 4 TEs - I am trying to figure out how I am going to make that happen.
Couple of comments:
1. No Alfred Morris?
2. I wanted to point out that you have only one back up tackle on your roster, Hurt, and he hasn't played tackle in preseason games. With Brown on the PUP, if he gets healthy, he won't be able to help for at least 6 weeks in accordance with the rules of the PUP.
That almost forces you to have to keep 9 lineman insteadof 8, if you keep Hurt as a back up tackle.
3. You have 8 LB names listed and the number "7" next to linebacks. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Bob 0119 wrote: | | No Morris? Do you think they practice squad him? Me personally, I think they keep him over Helu. |
I think we try to put him to the Practice Squad. I think he's got a ways to go on pass protection. My guess is that he makes it to the practice squad, but stranger things have happened, like when Keiland Williams didn't clear. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| Red_One43 wrote: | ^Great looking 53, only one surprise, you picked Rackers over Gano (Just Kidding ). I like the 4 TEs - I am trying to figure out how I am going to make that happen.
Couple of comments:
1. No Alfred Morris?
2. I wanted to point out that you have only one back up tackle on your roster, Hurt, and he hasn't played tackle in preseason games. With Brown on the PUP, if he gets healthy, he won't be able to help for at least 6 weeks in accordance with the rules of the PUP.
That almost forces you to have to keep 9 lineman insteadof 8, if you keep Hurt as a back up tackle.
3. You have 8 LB names listed and the number "7" next to linebacks. |
+1 Adjusted the numbers. Typing and drinking a beer.
I think Morris starts out on the PS much like Royster did. Problem is, he may not make it. I think he will. Or, Hightower could start out on PUP allowing him to make the roster.
As for backup Tackle, I have Compton making it there instead of Chris Wilson at OLB. I chose to do that because I think that we have guys at OLB and backup Tackle that we may be able to release, and still get back, like Willie Smith or James Lee. Jordan Black etc. In the event that we lost Polumbus in the first 6 games.
Since we are carrying 3 QBs, it makes for some tough decisions. But, I'm a big fan of Brandon Thompson, and Richard Crawford. I think those two guys are too valuable to release. |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | | Link ------> This thread already exists. |
Merged...
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Here's my latest list:
Offensive Total … 26
Quarterbacks (3)
Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, and Rex Grossman
Halfbacks (3)
Roy Helu Jr., Alfred Morris, and Evan Royster,
Fullbacks (1)
Darrel Young
Wide Receivers (7)
Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Aldrick Robinson, and Dezmon Briscoe
Tight Ends (3)
Fred Davis, Niles Paul, and Chris Cooley
Offensive Lineman (10)
Trent Williams, Willie Smith, Tyler Polumbus, Maurice Hurt , Will Montgomery, Kory Lichtensteiger, Chris Chester, Josh LeRibeus, Adam Gettis, and Tom Compton to the PS
Defensive Total …. 24
Linebackers (8 )
London Fletcher, Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Perry Riley, Rob Jackson, Chris Wilson, Lorenzo Alexander, and Keenan Robinson Markus White is dropped
Defensive Backs (10)
Josh Wilson, DeAngelo Hall, Kevin Barnes, Madieu Williams, Kevin Barnes, Brandon Meriweather, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes, Brandyn Thompson, and Richard Crawford.... Cedric Griffin was replaced by Kevin Barnes but it's a toss up right now
Defensive Lineman (6)
Barry Cofield, Stephen Bowen, Adam Carriker, Jarvis Jenkins, Chris Baker, Kedrick Golston and Chris Neild went on IR
Special Teams Total …. 3
Teams
Graham Gano, Sav Rocca, Nick Sundberg
Practice Squad Prediction
DJ Holt LB
Grant Garner C
Tom Compton OT
Lance Lewis WR
Tristan Davis RB
Jordan Bernstine S
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1niksder
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| The Hogster wrote: |
I think Morris starts out on the PS much like Royster did. Problem is, he may not make it. I think he will. Or, Hightower could start out on PUP allowing him to make the roster. |
I don't think Morris will last on the PS, and TH could land on the PUP or IR
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As for backup Tackle, I have Compton making it there instead of Chris Wilson at OLB. I chose to do that because I think that we have guys at OLB and backup Tackle that we may be able to release, and still get back, like Willie Smith or James Lee. Jordan Black etc. In the event that we lost Polumbus in the first 6 games. |
I have Compton going to the PS for a spell and Chris Wilson making the active roster unless Kehl learns to hold onto the ball, and it's possibly that Will Smith gets cut (free up a spot for Paulsen as the 4th TE).
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Since we are carrying 3 QBs, it makes for some tough decisions. But, I'm a big fan of Brandon Thompson, and Richard Crawford. I think those two guys are too valuable to release. |
Crawford has outplayed Griffin thus far in practice and in the pre-season, and I believe, Thompson will also make the roster before Griffin or Barnes. Would love to say Rex's performance with the Bears got him run out of Chi Town and Cousins performance in Chi Town last week will get Rex run out of Washington, but I don't think it will happen. |
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Red_One43
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | | Red_One43 wrote: | ^Great looking 53, only one surprise, you picked Rackers over Gano (Just Kidding ). I like the 4 TEs - I am trying to figure out how I am going to make that happen.
Couple of comments:
1. No Alfred Morris?
2. I wanted to point out that you have only one back up tackle on your roster, Hurt, and he hasn't played tackle in preseason games. With Brown on the PUP, if he gets healthy, he won't be able to help for at least 6 weeks in accordance with the rules of the PUP.
That almost forces you to have to keep 9 lineman insteadof 8, if you keep Hurt as a back up tackle.
3. You have 8 LB names listed and the number "7" next to linebacks. |
+1 Adjusted the numbers. Typing and drinking a beer.
I think Morris starts out on the PS much like Royster did. Problem is, he may not make it. I think he will. Or, Hightower could start out on PUP allowing him to make the roster.
As for backup Tackle, I have Compton making it there instead of Chris Wilson at OLB. I chose to do that because I think that we have guys at OLB and backup Tackle that we may be able to release, and still get back, like Willie Smith or James Lee. Jordan Black etc. In the event that we lost Polumbus in the first 6 games.
Since we are carrying 3 QBs, it makes for some tough decisions. But, I'm a big fan of Brandon Thompson, and Richard Crawford. I think those two guys are too valuable to release. |
Morris is going to be a tough call. I went with him, because I think that he can be a major contributor early on. Shanny gave him first team reps, because he is looking at him. He can't start right away because of his his lack of blitz pick up. The optimum would be for the PS, because he might be a "system" back, he could make it to the PS. They better shut him down now - he is getting too much attention.
Your philosophy of being able to get guys back for the tackle position is why I went with two QBs. What is the chance of Grossman being picked up if he is released? He will be there if we need him. If we need to go to a third QB in a game, the probability is high that the game is lot, so I am going with two. PLUS - it sure makes it eases the pain of making the 53. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Red_One43 wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | Red_One43 wrote: | ^Great looking 53, only one surprise, you picked Rackers over Gano (Just Kidding ). I like the 4 TEs - I am trying to figure out how I am going to make that happen.
Couple of comments:
1. No Alfred Morris?
2. I wanted to point out that you have only one back up tackle on your roster, Hurt, and he hasn't played tackle in preseason games. With Brown on the PUP, if he gets healthy, he won't be able to help for at least 6 weeks in accordance with the rules of the PUP.
That almost forces you to have to keep 9 lineman insteadof 8, if you keep Hurt as a back up tackle.
3. You have 8 LB names listed and the number "7" next to linebacks. |
+1 Adjusted the numbers. Typing and drinking a beer.
I think Morris starts out on the PS much like Royster did. Problem is, he may not make it. I think he will. Or, Hightower could start out on PUP allowing him to make the roster.
As for backup Tackle, I have Compton making it there instead of Chris Wilson at OLB. I chose to do that because I think that we have guys at OLB and backup Tackle that we may be able to release, and still get back, like Willie Smith or James Lee. Jordan Black etc. In the event that we lost Polumbus in the first 6 games.
Since we are carrying 3 QBs, it makes for some tough decisions. But, I'm a big fan of Brandon Thompson, and Richard Crawford. I think those two guys are too valuable to release. |
Morris is going to be a tough call. I went with him, because I think that he can be a major contributor early on. Shanny gave him first team reps, because he is looking at him. He can't start right away because of his his lack of blitz pick up. The optimum would be for the PS, because he might be a "system" back, he could make it to the PS. They better shut him down now - he is getting too much attention.
Your philosophy of being able to get guys back for the tackle position is why I went with two QBs. What is the chance of Grossman being picked up if he is released? He will be there if we need him. If we need to go to a third QB in a game, the probability is high that the game is lot, so I am going with two. PLUS - it sure makes it eases the pain of making the 53. |
I think the value of Rex Grossman is on the sidelines, looking at photos of the prior series, listening to the play calls, and communicating with the QBs on the sidelines. His knowledge of the offense, and experience against different looks gives him some value when the defense is on the field. We just need to keep him off of the field!! Which is why I'd put Kirk at #2. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Good list. I'm not sure about Niles Paul myself. Right now I think I would have Paulsen making the team with Paul the odd man out. |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Red_One43 wrote: | | What is the chance of Grossman being picked up if he is released? |
My answer is "almost zero." This happens a lot, Red. I think of a question but you ask it first. 
I say waive Rex, watch him clear, claim him, and then do whateva with the guy you really want to keep without risking exposing him to the waiver wire (Morris).
I suppose Rex could retire and we could hire him as a coach if someone claims him. 
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