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| Who will be Next POTUS come Nov..... |
| Barack Obama |
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Deadskins
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry, but that has to be the stupidest reason to vote for one presidential candidate over another that I've ever heard. |
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KazooSkinsFan
kazoo
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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Location: Kazmania
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Cappster wrote: | | I long for a candidate that doesn't believe in religious fairy tales. If I said I believe the the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were real, I would instantly be discredited and labeled as a wacko. I see no difference between a person who believes in TMNT than a person who believes Joseph Smith, a known con man, is a prophet of God. I don't see how religious beliefs get a "pass" when they directly affect how a person approaches life. |
See, you start with the fairy tale thing and I think you're heading to a conclusion which makes sense, you're talking about all religions. But no, it's just Mormons. Gotcha. Mormons are weird, other Religions make sense. Personally while I believe in God, I think all dogmatic beliefs are ridiculous and unnecessary. |
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Cappster
cappster
Joined: 25 Jun 2006
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Location: Humanist, at your service.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Cappster wrote: | | I long for a candidate that doesn't believe in religious fairy tales. If I said I believe the the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were real, I would instantly be discredited and labeled as a wacko. I see no difference between a person who believes in TMNT than a person who believes Joseph Smith, a known con man, is a prophet of God. I don't see how religious beliefs get a "pass" when they directly affect how a person approaches life. |
See, you start with the fairy tale thing and I think you're heading to a conclusion which makes sense, you're talking about all religions. But no, it's just Mormons. Gotcha. Mormons are weird, other Religions make sense. Personally while I believe in God, I think all dogmatic beliefs are ridiculous and unnecessary. |
I am talking about all religions, but some religions I find more odd than others. They all are bologna to me. I point out Mormons, because there is one running for president and if you weren't so narrowly focused on me saying Mormon then you would see that the very next statement I make addresses how religious beliefs tend to be off limits. That is, unless, you are a black man with a *weird* name. |
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Cappster
cappster
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Location: Humanist, at your service.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Deadskins wrote: | | I'm sorry, but that has to be the stupidest reason to vote for one presidential candidate over another that I've ever heard. |
Sooooo you would vote for a Muslim candidate who was a successful businessman if they claim to have a *plan* for economic recovery? Would their belief system be of no interest to you? |
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Countertrey
the 'mudge
Joined: 09 Jan 2004
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Location: Curmudgeon Corner, Maine
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Cappster wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Cappster wrote: | | I long for a candidate that doesn't believe in religious fairy tales. If I said I believe the the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were real, I would instantly be discredited and labeled as a wacko. I see no difference between a person who believes in TMNT than a person who believes Joseph Smith, a known con man, is a prophet of God. I don't see how religious beliefs get a "pass" when they directly affect how a person approaches life. |
See, you start with the fairy tale thing and I think you're heading to a conclusion which makes sense, you're talking about all religions. But no, it's just Mormons. Gotcha. Mormons are weird, other Religions make sense. Personally while I believe in God, I think all dogmatic beliefs are ridiculous and unnecessary. |
I am talking about all religions, but some religions I find more odd than others. They all are bologna to me. I point out Mormons, because there is one running for president and if you weren't so narrowly focused on me saying Mormon then you would see that the very next statement I make addresses how religious beliefs tend to be off limits. That is, unless, you are a black man with a *weird* name. |
Do you understand the concept of "value judgements"? YOU find it odd... therefore, it's BAD... it's akin to stereotyping... do you do that, as well? |
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Countertrey
the 'mudge
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Cappster wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | I'm sorry, but that has to be the stupidest reason to vote for one presidential candidate over another that I've ever heard. |
Sooooo you would vote for a Muslim candidate who was a successful businessman if they claim to have a *plan* for economic recovery? Would their belief system be of no interest to you? |
don't know about DS... but I would... I don't give a crap what religion someone has... as long as their political, social and economic values are compatible with mine. I don't need to agree 100%... just close enough. |
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Cappster
cappster
Joined: 25 Jun 2006
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Location: Humanist, at your service.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Countertrey wrote: | | Cappster wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Cappster wrote: | | I long for a candidate that doesn't believe in religious fairy tales. If I said I believe the the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were real, I would instantly be discredited and labeled as a wacko. I see no difference between a person who believes in TMNT than a person who believes Joseph Smith, a known con man, is a prophet of God. I don't see how religious beliefs get a "pass" when they directly affect how a person approaches life. |
See, you start with the fairy tale thing and I think you're heading to a conclusion which makes sense, you're talking about all religions. But no, it's just Mormons. Gotcha. Mormons are weird, other Religions make sense. Personally while I believe in God, I think all dogmatic beliefs are ridiculous and unnecessary. |
I am talking about all religions, but some religions I find more odd than others. They all are bologna to me. I point out Mormons, because there is one running for president and if you weren't so narrowly focused on me saying Mormon then you would see that the very next statement I make addresses how religious beliefs tend to be off limits. That is, unless, you are a black man with a *weird* name. |
Do you understand the concept of "value judgements"? YOU find it odd... therefore, it's BAD... it's akin to stereotyping... do you do that, as well? |
Uh, someone believing and donating millions to a fraudulent cause, to me, is a valid concern especially when it comes to someone who could potentially push forth policies that will affect my life. If that isn't a concern for you then I cannot help that. |
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Cappster
cappster
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Countertrey wrote: | | Cappster wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | I'm sorry, but that has to be the stupidest reason to vote for one presidential candidate over another that I've ever heard. |
Sooooo you would vote for a Muslim candidate who was a successful businessman if they claim to have a *plan* for economic recovery? Would their belief system be of no interest to you? |
don't know about DS... but I would... I don't give a crap what religion someone has... as long as their political, social and economic values are compatible with mine. I don't need to agree 100%... just close enough. |
If what you are saying is true, you are about the only conservative who would vote for someone who does not have a "Christian" based belief system. |
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KazooSkinsFan
kazoo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Cappster wrote: | | Uh, someone believing and donating millions to a fraudulent cause, to me, is a valid concern especially when it comes to someone who could potentially push forth policies that will affect my life. If that isn't a concern for you then I cannot help that. |
Right, it's all religions, but it's ... THE MORMONS!!!! ...
Bigotry offered as an excuse when you were going to vote for Obama anyway is beyond lame. Obviously it has nothing to do with how you are going to vote. |
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DarthMonk
DarthMonk
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Has anyone noticed how a tax cut for someone who makes $20,000 is a freebie or a handout but if you multiply by 100 a tax cut for someone making $2,000,000 becomes an incentive to invest?
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KazooSkinsFan
kazoo
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | | Has anyone noticed how a tax cut for someone who makes $20,000 is a freebie or a handout |
No one calls any "tax cut" a handout. No one. Making up arguments isn't an indication even you think your position is sound. And how can you cut the taxes of someone who doesn't pay taxes?
| DarthMonk wrote: | | but if you multiply by 100 a tax cut for someone making $2,000,000 becomes an incentive to invest? |
100 * zero = zero, so I hope we cut the rich's taxes by more than that.
Right now, 1% of the population pay 40% of all Federal taxes and 5% of taxpayers pay 60% of all taxes. 47% pay zero. Ignoring your plan to torch more jobs so there are more people under $20K, how much is enough for you?
And the answer to your question is they invest it. And the evidence that happens is the entire field of economics. When you can explain how liberal politicians know more then the theory and empirical data of the field of economics, get back to us...
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tribeofjudah
tribe
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 5998
Location: SURF CITY, HB, CALI *** Occasionally flying into a SUPERNOVA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Cappster wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | I'm sorry, but that has to be the stupidest reason to vote for one presidential candidate over another that I've ever heard. |
Sooooo you would vote for a Muslim candidate who was a successful businessman if they claim to have a *plan* for economic recovery? Would their belief system be of no interest to you? |
I would vote for a man who could show improvements overall in our Gov over the last 4 years.
NO Bama has not done so and his job performance is Needs to Improve, no better yet: Failure....sorry charlie
Not willing to give him another shot......
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KazooSkinsFan
kazoo
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| tribeofjudah wrote: | | Cappster wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | I'm sorry, but that has to be the stupidest reason to vote for one presidential candidate over another that I've ever heard. |
Sooooo you would vote for a Muslim candidate who was a successful businessman if they claim to have a *plan* for economic recovery? Would their belief system be of no interest to you? |
I would vote for a man who could show improvements overall in our Gov over the last 4 years.
NO Bama has not done so and his job performance is Needs to Improve....sorry charlie |
That is the point, Tribe. We're electing a ... President ... not a Minister for our church. The left want to talk about anything and everything else because the one thing that Obama has clearly shown is how badly he blows as President. So deflection, like arguing his religion, is the only option left, isn't it? |
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Cappster
cappster
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | Cappster wrote: | | Uh, someone believing and donating millions to a fraudulent cause, to me, is a valid concern especially when it comes to someone who could potentially push forth policies that will affect my life. If that isn't a concern for you then I cannot help that. |
Right, it's all religions, but it's ... THE MORMONS!!!! ...
Bigotry offered as an excuse when you were going to vote for Obama anyway is beyond lame. Obviously it has nothing to do with how you are going to vote. |
Yes, calling someone out for believing in a fraud is bigotry. Got it. 
And to add that I haven't fully determined that I am going to vote for Obama yet. I am leaning that way, because it will be the most impactful in regards to keeping Romney out of office.
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Cappster
cappster
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| DarthMonk wrote: | Has anyone noticed how a tax cut for someone who makes $20,000 is a freebie or a handout but if you multiply by 100 a tax cut for someone making $2,000,000 becomes an incentive to invest?
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Yes, because as we all know, capitalists, love to give out jobs as if they were doing charity work. It has worked so well the past ten years... |
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