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Smithian
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| He had a good game but I still think he should have not been allowed to fly back with the team from Pittsburgh. |
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DarthMonk
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| ATX_Skins wrote: | | chiefhog44 wrote: | | I can not believe we didn't give up a 4th rounder to grab Talib from the Bucs. Am I the only one here? Very little compensation for a top DB |
Talib and a 7th rounder... Why don't we jump on these things? Apparently though this guy comes with baggage. |
Also, isn't the team that got him (Pats) famous for having picks to spare? Probably got the 4th rounder for someone like Moss ... 2nd time around. Oh yeah, and they picked up a 7th rounder in the deal.
So they got Talib and a potential Alfred Morris. This allows them to make mistakes. The Patriots currently have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and two 7th rounders as they also traded away their 5th for Albert Haynesworth, and their 6th for Chad Ochocinco. |
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SkinsJock
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we do NOT have the luxury to give up draft picks and especially not for players like that ...
we are not just a player or 2 from the playoffs - NE can afford to make mistakes
we have many positions of need and then we have to add a lot of players that provide QUALITY depth as well
the franchises with good depth do well when the injuries that happen take away your starters
our secondary (actually the defense) will get a lot of attention this offseason including both players and coaches
Hall will be looked at carefully and have to earn his spot just like a lot of others |
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DaSkinz Baby
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Available CB's who would you sign if you cut D'Angelo today??
Cornerbacks
1. Stanford Routt
2. Leigh Bodden
3. Justin King
4. Bryant McFadden
5. Trevard Lindley
6. Andre' Goodman
7. Kelly Jennings
8. Kevin Barnes
9. Kevin Thomas
10. Alphonso Smith
11. Brandon McDonald
12. Jonathan Wade
13. Antwaun Molden
14. Lito Sheppard
15. Morgan Trent |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| DaSkinz Baby wrote: | Available CB's who would you sign if you cut D'Angelo today??
Cornerbacks
1. Stanford Routt
2. Leigh Bodden
3. Justin King
4. Bryant McFadden
5. Trevard Lindley
6. Andre' Goodman
7. Kelly Jennings
8. Kevin Barnes
9. Kevin Thomas
10. Alphonso Smith
11. Brandon McDonald
12. Jonathan Wade
13. Antwaun Molden
14. Lito Sheppard
15. Morgan Trent |
Which of those DB's schematically fits the scheme that we run? |
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DaSkinz Baby
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| Kevin Barnes plus he can play safety. I don't see how he was let go and we keep someone like Reed Doughty.......... |
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SkinsJock
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totally agree with CLL - this NOT fantasy BS - this is the NFL
If you have to add players, add the ones that best suit, not necessarily the best player, like Cerrato & Snyder used to do here  |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| DaSkinz Baby wrote: | | Kevin Barnes plus he can play safety. I don't see how he was let go and we keep someone like Reed Doughty.......... |
But if he was released, it was more than likely determined that he didn't fit the scheme/direction of what the coaches were asking of him... So again...?
| SkinsJock wrote: | totally agree with CLL - this NOT fantasy BS - this is the NFL
If you have to add players, add the ones that best suit, not necessarily the best player, like Cerrato & Snyder used to do here |
Right. Now's not the time to overreact and make a bad situation worse. |
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Irn-Bru
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| DaSkinz Baby wrote: | | Kevin Barnes plus he can play safety. I don't see how he was let go and we keep someone like Reed Doughty.......... |
Probably because Reed Doughty is the better player. |
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markshark84
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| SkinsJock wrote: | we do NOT have the luxury to give up draft picks and especially not for players like that ...
we are not just a player or 2 from the playoffs - NE can afford to make mistakes
we have many positions of need and then we have to add a lot of players that provide QUALITY depth as well
the franchises with good depth do well when the injuries that happen take away your starters
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AGREE. As to the second paragraph --- need to add these players via the draft, which is why we need picks and can't afford to give them away. |
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Smithian
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| Quote: | | "@RapSheet: #Redskins CB DeAngelo Hall was in a screaming episode with a reporter. Were separated by security, PR. Reporter & Hall later met to discuss" |
Oh. Shocking. |
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cowboykillerzRGiii
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| Irn-Bru wrote: | | DaSkinz Baby wrote: | | Kevin Barnes plus he can play safety. I don't see how he was let go and we keep someone like Reed Doughty.......... |
Probably because Reed Doughty is the better player. |
I thoguht we traded barnes for a late round draft pick to the iggles or something.. IF thats the case he would still have value here and might be worth taking a look at #justsaying |
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DaSkinz Baby
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| Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | DaSkinz Baby wrote: | | Kevin Barnes plus he can play safety. I don't see how he was let go and we keep someone like Reed Doughty.......... |
But if he was released, it was more than likely determined that he didn't fit the scheme/direction of what the coaches were asking of him... So again...? |
Chris Luva Luva based on the secondary play this year is it too much of a stretch to think that MAYBE they are mistaken? I mean I dunno but I would think that if nothing else Kevin is faster and younger than say Reed Doughty. I mean Jesus we kept Madoo Doo and what has he done other than get smoked like a blunt for 80% of the time he has started??
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DaSkinz Baby
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| Irn-Bru wrote: | | DaSkinz Baby wrote: | | Kevin Barnes plus he can play safety. I don't see how he was let go and we keep someone like Reed Doughty.......... |
Probably because Reed Doughty is the better player. |
How? seriously can you even say that? How many times has Reed been burned in deep coverage? Last I recall Kevin Barnes playing safety he was intercepting a pass to close a game out......I can't ever recall causing a fumble or even getting an interception. We know he is a fan favorite for him playing so well after Sean was killed but that pig don't fly no more...... |
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1niksder
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Location: If I knew ... it would explain a lot but I've seen Homerville on a map, that wasn't helpful at all
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| DaSkinz Baby wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | DaSkinz Baby wrote: | | Kevin Barnes plus he can play safety. I don't see how he was let go and we keep someone like Reed Doughty.......... |
Probably because Reed Doughty is the better player. |
How? seriously can you even say that? How many times has Reed been burned in deep coverage? Last I recall Kevin Barnes playing safety he was intercepting a pass to close a game out......I can't ever recall causing a fumble or even getting an interception. We know he is a fan favorite for him playing so well after Sean was killed but that pig don't fly no more...... |
Your point is moot... Merriweather is done for the year, if they thought Barnes was better than Doughty they would have already signed the FREE Agent and wouldn't have to cut anyone. |
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