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Redskin in Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | Redskin in Canada wrote: | | DarthMonk wrote: | | 400.5 POINTS |
I promise you. I will NOT be psyched. I WILL make my picks and put my score any time after midnight Thursday as established by the rules.
And I will WIN on BOTH counts: games -and- score. But the score will be unnecessary.  |
I just thought I'd add a little levity here
| Quote: | | Being the visiting team in the Hognostication playoffs means you pick first (Visitors' picks must be in by Thursday 11:59 PM EST). The home team may make their picks at any time up until the start of the first game of the week. Once the home team has picked, the visiting teams picks are locked, and can not be changed, but the home team can still make changes until the deadline. You must supply a winner for each game and a point total for the entire weekend. |
so as I understand it AND I'm not very bright
IF RiC were to post his picks and tie breaker - DM's picks AND points total are locked in ... No? |
You are bright enough for this and a lot more.
Your quote and your interpretation are correct. These picks and the total score are locked and cannot be changed. 
I do not need to post to lock them. HOWEVER, I can wait until the end of my deadline to capture any potential information, such as injuries, weather, etc, which may be known prior to the start of the first game. |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Redskin in Canada wrote: | | SkinsJock wrote: | | Redskin in Canada wrote: | | DarthMonk wrote: | | 400.5 POINTS |
I promise you. I will NOT be psyched. I WILL make my picks and put my score any time after midnight Thursday as established by the rules.
And I will WIN on BOTH counts: games -and- score. But the score will be unnecessary. |
I just thought I'd add a little levity here
| Quote: | | Being the visiting team in the Hognostication playoffs means you pick first (Visitors' picks must be in by Thursday 11:59 PM EST). The home team may make their picks at any time up until the start of the first game of the week. Once the home team has picked, the visiting teams picks are locked, and can not be changed, but the home team can still make changes until the deadline. You must supply a winner for each game and a point total for the entire weekend. |
so as I understand it AND I'm not very bright
IF RiC were to post his picks and tie breaker - DM's picks AND points total are locked in ... No? |
You are bright enough for this and a lot more.
Your quote and your interpretation are correct. These picks and the total score are locked and cannot be changed. |
Not yet, they aren't.
| Redskin in Canada wrote: | | I do not need to post to lock them. |
I believe you do since it is before 11:59 PM Thursday.
Saturday, Jan. 12
4:30 Baltimore @ Denver
8:00 Green Bay @ San Francisco
Sunday, Jan. 13
1:00 Seattle @ Atlanta
4:30 Houston @ New England
184.5 POINTS |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the Darth man ...
I could not believe he put that out there - if RiC had posted at any time BEFORE Darth changed his mind - he could have not only "locked" him into the points but also at any time changed his own picks and point spread BEFORE the first game
not to worry - I have faith in the man from the North side vrs the man from the Dark side |
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Redskin in Canada
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | | Not yet, they aren't. |
I knew you would choose to write this and you would post your true picks and score before your deadline.
You follow the Vegas lines very closely with respect to picks in general and now in scores in this round.
However, a maneuver to play games with the score like this one could become a controversial proposition for you and other players if we are not completely sure about the interpretation of the rule. I am not interested to clarify the rules in THIS case but it might be useful to do so if another situation arises in the future.
I choose not to to compete and decide the outcome of this round of the playoffs based on an interpretation of the rules. I rather compete knowing full well that you brought your best possible game against me. Playing against a ridiculous high score would have been too easy and then dragging this round over the interpretation of the rules would have been a no fun "Commissioner's issue" God forbid! 
As I wrote previously, I am in it to try to win with the games -and- the score (even if the score becomes unnecessary). After all, I am defending my 1st place of last year.
| SkinsJock wrote: | I agree with the Darth man ...
I could not believe he put that out there - if RiC had posted at any time BEFORE Darth changed his mind - he could have not only "locked" him into the points but also at any time changed his own picks and point spread BEFORE the first game
not to worry - I have faith in the man from the North side vrs the man from the Dark side |
I did not want to place my picks on what was obviously a maneuver to provoke an early reaction from yours truly to show my picks and score when Darth was acting under the assumption that he could still change his picks and score prior to his deadline.
Darth tried to prompt me to post my picks and I chose not to do it. Now he has posted his ... maybe. But he can still try to change his mind until midnight tonight ... maybe.  |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:20 am Post subject: |
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As I understand the 'rules' - the 'visiting' picks may be changed up until the deadline ... BUT .... Once the 'home' team' picks are made, the 'visiting' picks are locked and can NOT be changed ... The 'home' picks may be changed at any time, up to the deadline
I'd prefer to not make this a under or over challenge but that is how it is set up - I will be making my picks based on the teams that I think will win - the points are just a guesstimate
we could consider using the same format but having the points only by PM so that it does not unduly punish the visiting poster
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Redskin in Canada
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | As I understand the 'rules' - the 'visiting' picks may be changed up until the deadline ... BUT .... Once the 'home' team' picks are made, the 'visiting' picks are locked and can NOT be changed ... The 'home' picks may be changed at any time, up to the deadline |
This is ONE interpretation. What fun would it have been for me in THIS case to play against a ridiculous high score and then argue about the rule? Not much.
Another possible interpretation is that once the visiting team picks, it is what it is and it is not allowed to change regardless of whether the home team picks or not but certainly when it does.
| Quote: | | I'd prefer to not make this a under or over challenge but that is how it is set up - I will be making my picks based on the teams that I think will win - the points are just a guesstimate |
I think it is about both but the home team has the possibility to make it a score round.
| Quote: | we could consider using the same format but having the points only by PM so that it does not unduly punish the visiting poster
all the best |
I have won both ways, visiting and at home. I do not think that there is an advantage either way if you choose your total score wisely as a visiting team. The only issues may arise are those which happen between Thursday and Sunday: weather, injuries, etc. |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:53 am Post subject: |
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no worries - the "interpretation" I had was
once the home team picked, the visiting team is locked in AND the home team could make changes
LAST WEEK - I did not know that Joe Webb was going to be the QB but I did not think that the Vikings could beat the Packers anyway ...
I'm glad you 'played it' the way you did - I don't think that Darth fully understood what he put out there ... |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Redskin in Canada wrote: | | Darth tried to prompt me to post my picks |
RiC: Believe what you want but in all honesty, I was simply trying to be funny.
SJ got the joke.
When SJ posted I realized you could lock my picks by making yours.
SJ: Thanks for the post.
RiC: Thanks for not locking me in. I think the rules are clear. I just did not read them carefully before SJ's post.
DarthMonk
PS - RiC, did you knock me out last year? I think you did. |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Darth - I'm also glad it 'worked' the way it did
all the best
I have a lot on my own plate right now .....  |
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Justice Hog
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Please change my total points to 176. |
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I'd like the Deadman to weigh in on this. I only see 2 things in the rules that lock a vistor's picks:
1 Thursday 11:59 PM comes and goes.
2 The host makes his picks.
Nothing says the visitor can't change his mind before the deadline as long as the host has not posted his picks.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Redskin in Canada wrote: | | I WILL make my picks and put my score any time after midnight Thursday as established by the rules. |
You don't have to wait, you can lock his picks in by making yours now. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | As I understand the 'rules' - the 'visiting' picks may be changed up until the deadline ... BUT .... Once the 'home' team' picks are made, the 'visiting' picks are locked and can NOT be changed ... The 'home' picks may be changed at any time, up to the deadline |
That is correct. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | I'd like the Deadman to weigh in on this. I only see 2 things in the rules that lock a vistor's picks:
1 Thursday 11:59 PM comes and goes.
2 The host makes his picks.
Nothing says the visitor can't change his mind before the deadline as long as the host has not posted his picks.
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You are correct on all points. |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| THAT is why Justice was able to change his points total - his option was still available - the 'tribe' kind of let him off there |
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